Hi, I found out that vim remembers the last modified time, size, mode and the inode number to monitor file changes. I also tested the issue with other windows servers. With windows 7 everthing's fine and we happen to have another windows server 2003, where the problem does not occur. I found out, that the problematic server is in fact a "small business server", which is also seems to be a kind of windows server 2003 as reported by /proc/fs/cifs/DebugData. The output of /proc/fs/cifs/DebugData for both only differs in "secmode": good server: [...]Local Users To Server: 1 SecMode: 0x3 Req On Wire: 0[...] bad server: [...]Local Users To Server: 1 SecMode: 0xf Req On Wire: 0[...] perhaps this helps? On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Johannes Thrän <johannes.thraen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > sorry for having been unspecific: > with sometime i mean: some seconds after first saving the file. > sometimes 2 sometimes 20 not more. as I recreated the error, I found > out, it only occurs after saving the file once. > the exact error message vim confronts me with is: > > WARNING: The file has been changed since reading it!!! > Do you really want to write to it (y/n)? > > I have no idea how vim determines file changes in terms of system > calls. the vim maintainer was neither polite nor helpful, he just sent > me here. I asked him again, perhaps he'll answer. Until then I straced > -t the thing and prefiltered the output. the test file's name is > "test" and it contains the text "this is a test". I saved the file > twice, the first save went well, the second save (few seconds later) > didn't. see attachment. > > thanks! > > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Shirish Pargaonkar > <shirishpargaonkar@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Jeff Layton <jlayton@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 15:25:01 +0100 >>> Johannes Thrän <johannes.thraen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I reported this before here, it somehow went under. So I'll try again: >>>> >>>> When I open a file which is located on a cifs-mounted windows share >>>> with vim, vim will after some time always report the file as having >>>> changed upon saving, regardless whether it has actually changed or >>>> not. >>>> >>>> I reported this also to the vim maintainer who told me, there he >>>> doesn't know of a similar problem with samba. Ergo it's probably a >>>> problem with cifs. >>>> I work on a daily basis with mentioned setup, so I would be vary glad >>>> to help resolve it. >>>> >>>> mount.cifs -v gives 4.5, I use kubuntu 11.04 and vim 7.2 >>>> >>> >>> Unfortunately, this sort of report doesn't help us to help you very >>> much. I have no idea what vim is actually complaining about when it >>> says that the file has changed. >>> >>> As it's a kernel filesystem, it primarily deals with userspace code via >>> system calls. If you can phrase your problem in that context then >>> that would help. We'd need to know what vim is actually looking at to >>> detect that the file has changed. Is it the mtime? >>> >>> -- >>> Jeff Layton <jlayton@xxxxxxxxx> >>> -- >>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-cifs" in >>> the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >>> >> >> yes, that would be useful. I just tried with vim 7.2.22, cifs version 1.76 >> against a Windows 2003 server and after two minutes of opening a file >> and while closing, no errors or messages. >> >> What is the exact error message by vim? And how long is "sometime"? >> A trace data (strace, wireshark, tcpdump) obtained while >> encountering/recreating the problem would help. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-cifs" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html