Re: [PATCH -v6 3/4] cifs NTLMv2/NTLMSSP define crypto hash functions and create and send keys needed for key exchange

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On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:20:21 -0500
Shirish Pargaonkar <shirishpargaonkar@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Jeff Layton <jlayton@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 21:57:44 -0500
> > Shirish Pargaonkar <shirishpargaonkar@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Jeff Layton <jlayton@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:04:24 -0500
> >> > Shirish Pargaonkar <shirishpargaonkar@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Right. I'm just not sure why we need a separate flag attached to the
> >> >> > server struct for this. Why was the "first_time" mechanism not good
> >> >> > enough here? I see no reason why that wouldn't have worked for NTLMSSP
> >> >> > too.
> >> >>
> >> >> Jeff, I will investigate but at the first glance, it looks like
> >> >> first_ses is per smb session
> >> >> and not smb connection, not sure if that would be good enough for ntlmssp.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > first_time is set by is_first_ses_reconnect(). The comment on that
> >> > function says:
> >> >
> >> >  * Checks if this is the first smb session to be reconnected after
> >> >  * the socket has been reestablished (so we know whether to use vc 0).
> >> >  * Called while holding the cifs_tcp_ses_lock, so do not block
> >> >
> >> > ...which isn't entirely true, since this works even when there hasn't
> >> > been a reconnect. It just walks the list of sessions on a socket and
> >> > sees if any of them are already established (that is, need_reconnect
> >> > is false).
> >> >
> >> > So there is nominally a bug here -- sesInfoAlloc probably should set
> >> > needs_reconnect to true. But since cifs_get_smb_ses doesn't stick the
> >> > session on the server's list until after the session setup succeeds the
> >> > first time, it doesn't really cause any problems.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Jeff Layton <jlayton@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >
> >>
> >> We probably ought to keep first_time or cphready per type of auth mech
> >> since it is possible to have multiple smb sessions on the same connection using
> >> various kinds of authentication mechanisms.
> >>
> >
> > Ok, but only one of them gets to set the actual session_key. The socket
> > is a "shared" resource of sorts and we need something that indicates
> > which session has the "right of way" to set the session_key. The thing
> > with traffic lights is that they only work if everyone agrees on which
> > ones to use. ;)
> >
> 
> I am not sure traffic light analogy will work.  I think signing for session
> with sec=ntlmsspi will fail if sec=ntlmv2i happend to be very first session
> on that smb connect and has set up the session key.
> The keys are different, stored in different locations, and the scheme is
> different i.e. the key sizes that go in the signing are different sizes.
> 

Do you know this for a fact? My understanding is different than this.
AFAIU, the session_key is simply set by the first SESSION_SETUP
performed on the socket. If the first one uses plain NTLM and then a
later one uses krb5, then the socket uses the key from the NTLM setup
for signing even if the krb5 session had a bigger key.

Now, in point of fact, the client doesn't currently mix sectypes on a
socket, so the argument is somewhat moot. If there are races with the
first_time flag however (and I think that you're correct that there
are), then they should be fixed.

> > Your previous email sounded convincing that there is a potential race
> > there. I think you should work through the implications of that and
> > come up with a race-free scheme that fixes this. Don't just do it for
> > NTLMSSP though -- fix it for all the sectypes.
> >
> 
> The scope of this patch was deemed ntlmv2 within NTLMSSP
> authentication and signing.
> I do not have a setup for kerberos testing on Samba as well as Windows
> server as of now.
> 

That's fine, a separate patch will do. My suggestion would be to do an
initial cleanup patch that eliminates the first_time flag and switches
it to use your new scheme or something similarly non-racy, and then to
respin patches 3 and 4 in your set as a new set on top of that.

-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@xxxxxxxxx>
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