Re: Candump timing issues

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On 24.01.2024 15:58:57, Dr. Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> I’m writing a MCP2518fd driver (for an ESP32) and am using my Logic Analyzer
> to measure timing. I have a simple „echo“ program where the MCP repeats every
> CAN frame it receives. The sender is a pretty fast Linux machine using
> 
> cangen can0 -I 777 -L 8 -D r -v -v -g 1000
> 
> I’m also monitoring this (on the same machine) via
> 
> candump -D -catd can0
> 
> Here’s an excerpt from a few seconds:
> 
>  (000.000000)  can0  777   [8]  94 F8 BF 7E F1 6E 68 6B   '...~.nhk'
>  (000.000770)  can0  777   [8]  94 F8 BF 7E F1 6E 68 6B   '...~.nhk'
>  (000.999518)  can0  777   [8]  0E 99 51 48 E6 FF CE 64   '..QH...d'
>  (000.000733)  can0  777   [8]  0E 99 51 48 E6 FF CE 64   '..QH...d'
>  (000.999406)  can0  777   [8]  AC 1C A4 01 B7 10 FC 7C   '.......|'
>  (000.000854)  can0  777   [8]  AC 1C A4 01 B7 10 FC 7C   '.......|'
>  (000.999348)  can0  777   [8]  53 DA B4 5B 58 EA B4 5C   'S..[X..\'
>  (000.000769)  can0  777   [8]  53 DA B4 5B 58 EA B4 5C   'S..[X..\'
>  (000.999483)  can0  777   [8]  BF 2E 36 77 49 52 A0 1D   '..6wIR..'
>  (000.000796)  can0  777   [8]  BF 2E 36 77 49 52 A0 1D   '..6wIR..'
>  (000.999389)  can0  777   [8]  16 EF B7 22 85 F0 83 12   '..."....'
>  (000.000735)  can0  777   [8]  16 EF B7 22 85 F0 83 12   '..."....'
>  (000.999357)  can0  777   [8]  BA C4 BF 45 E3 7C CD 73   '...E.|.s'
>  (000.000845)  can0  777   [8]  BA C4 BF 45 E3 7C CD 73   '...E.|.s'
>  (000.999404)  can0  777   [8]  95 1B 65 1C 81 15 DB 64   '..e....d'
>  (000.000731)  can0  777   [8]  95 1B 65 1C 81 15 DB 64   '..e....d‘
> 
> Now I really wonder about these values, in particular the
> time between the „question“ and the „answer“. This is a CAN 2.0B
> bus @ 500000bps with only two nodes.
> 
> Looking at my Logic Analyzer, it takes me about
> 160µs to send the received frame back into the MCP,
> where then the arbitration starts on the CAN bus.
> 
> It takes an additional 200µs for the frame to be sent on the bus,
> so I’d expect to see a maximum of 360µs, if this is using hardware
> timestamps.

These are SW timestamps. If you want to display hardware timestamps, add
'-H'. You also need a CAN controller/Linux driver that support HW
timestamps.

> I could only see 750µs, if I were to measure from the beginning of
> the „question“ and the end of the „answer“ frame, but that’s make
> sense.
> 
> Is my understanding of these timestamps wrong?

Marc

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