Re: how to advertise a GATT service only for LE or BR/EDR?

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Hi Luiz,

On 10/09/2017 01:30 PM, Luiz Augusto von Dentz wrote:
> Hi Isaac,
>
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Hermida, Isaac <Isaac.Hermida@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi Luiz,
>>
>> On 10/05/2017 11:40 AM, Luiz Augusto von Dentz wrote:
>>> Hi Isaac,
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 6:43 PM, Hermida, Isaac <Isaac.Hermida@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Hi Luiz,
>>>>
>>>> On 10/03/2017 08:54 AM, Hermida, Isaac wrote:
>>>>> Hi Luiz,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/02/2017 06:00 PM, Luiz Augusto von Dentz wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Isaac,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Hermida, Isaac <Isaac.Hermida@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Luiz et all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 09/29/2017 08:44 AM, Hermida, Isaac wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Luiz,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 09/28/2017 08:21 PM, Luiz Augusto von Dentz wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Isaac,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 7:43 PM, Hermida, Isaac <Isaac.Hermida@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi group,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As part of the bluetooth SIG certification there are two test cases
>>>>>>>>>> /TP/GAR/CL/BI-34-C and /TP/GAR/CL/BI-35-C (you can see they defined in
>>>>>>>>>> unit/test-gatt.c).
>>>>>>>>>> Currently I am able to run the "test/example-gatt-server" and see my
>>>>>>>>>> custom services and characteristics, but I need to define an specific
>>>>>>>>>> service/characteristic to be only accessible trough LE or BR/EDR
>>>>>>>>>> transport parameter. I was digging into the code but I was unable to
>>>>>>>>>> find how to set it for the GATT server.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In other words, what I want to do is launch the gatt-server and then,
>>>>>>>>>> when inspecting the services/characteristic with gatttool, the returned
>>>>>>>>>> list should be different if I run gatttool with "-p 31" or not (notice
>>>>>>>>>> how the gatttool prompt is set to LE or BR).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> # gatttool -I -b 00:40:9D:98:99:BD -p 0
>>>>>>>>>> [00:40:9D:98:99:BD][LE]> connect
>>>>>>>>>> Attempting to connect to 00:40:9D:98:99:BD
>>>>>>>>>> Connection successful
>>>>>>>>>> [00:40:9D:98:99:BD][LE]> primary
>>>>>>>>>> attr handle: 0x0001, end grp handle: 0x0005 uuid:
>>>>>>>>>> 00001800-0000-1000-8000-00805f9b34fb
>>>>>>>>>> attr handle: 0x0006, end grp handle: 0x0009 uuid:
>>>>>>>>>> 00001801-0000-1000-8000-00805f9b34fb
>>>>>>>>>> attr handle: 0x000a, end grp handle: 0x000d uuid:
>>>>>>>>>> 0000180f-0000-1000-8000-00805f9b34fb
>>>>>>>>>> attr handle: 0x000e, end grp handle: 0x001d uuid:
>>>>>>>>>> 12345678-1234-5678-1234-56789abcdef0
>>>>>>>>>> attr handle: 0x001e, end grp handle: 0x0025 uuid:
>>>>>>>>>> 0000180d-0000-1000-8000-00805f9b34fb
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> # /tmp/gatttool -I -b 00:40:9D:98:99:BD -p 31
>>>>>>>>>> [00:40:9D:98:99:BD][BR]> connect
>>>>>>>>>> Attempting to connect to 00:40:9D:98:99:BD
>>>>>>>>>> Connection successful
>>>>>>>>>> [00:40:9D:98:99:BD][BR]> primary
>>>>>>>>>> attr handle: 0x0001, end grp handle: 0x0005 uuid:
>>>>>>>>>> 00001800-0000-1000-8000-00805f9b34fb
>>>>>>>>>> attr handle: 0x0006, end grp handle: 0x0009 uuid:
>>>>>>>>>> 00001801-0000-1000-8000-00805f9b34fb
>>>>>>>>>> attr handle: 0x000a, end grp handle: 0x0019 uuid:
>>>>>>>>>> 12345678-1234-5678-1234-56789abcdef0
>>>>>>>>>> attr handle: 0x001a, end grp handle: 0x001d uuid:
>>>>>>>>>> 0000180f-0000-1000-8000-00805f9b34fb
>>>>>>>>>> attr handle: 0x001e, end grp handle: 0x0025 uuid:
>>>>>>>>>> 0000180d-0000-1000-8000-00805f9b34fb
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am using bluez 5.41. Is possible to advertise a service only for LE or
>>>>>>>>>> BR? I guess it should because is part of the SIG certification and is
>>>>>>>>>> part of the unit/test-gatt.
>>>>>>>>> This might be because the spec was no clear about the database being
>>>>>>>>> bearer specific, which in my opinion this is a oversight since then we
>>>>>>>>> can't represent attributes of dual mode devices with a unified object,
>>>>>>>>> and I really wonder if this has to be forced up into the API, if it
>>>>>>>>> does then we would have to encode bearer information into the object
>>>>>>>>> path (argh!) for client and for server would probably need a property
>>>>>>>>> telling which bearer this would be available and encode this into to
>>>>>>>>> the database which may leave gaps in the handles or just duplicate
>>>>>>>>> everything, for server Id probably just hide the services based on the
>>>>>>>>> bearer, but we still need to store the CCC configuration in a bearer
>>>>>>>>> specific manner.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, what can I do in order to pass that specific bluetooth SIG tests?
>>>>>>>> That test cases need to ensure that an specific service/char in only
>>>>>>>> accessible on LE or BR, so they had to be different.
>>>>>>>> Do you have any idea or suggestion? It would be really welcome, if not I
>>>>>>>> have no idea how to proceed to complete the SIG validation with bluez stuff.
>>>>>>>> I was even trying to modify some files into the code, but I am not
>>>>>>>> familiar with that and it obviously did not work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I understand the silent to this last question as a no. So I assume that
>>>>>>> any user trying to pass this test will fail (at least if using bluez).
>>>>>>> So should the specification be changed? Should bluez adapt to it? In the
>>>>>>> current state that SIG certification can not be passed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That if you want to qualify with GATT over BR/EDR, something that we
>>>>>> may actually have an option to disable in the future, or perhaps just
>>>>>> remove it entirely given this tests would possible affect that GATT
>>>>>> database layout, either by creating handle gaps or duplication. So
>>>>>> perhaps you could give some feedback if you do intend to use GATT over
>>>>>> BR/EDR or not? If it turn out no one benefit from it Id just remove
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the quick reply. I do not know how any other people was able
>>>>> to pass these SIG lab tests (BI-34-C and BI-35-C).
>>>>> I do not plan to use GATT over BR/EDR. For me just removing it would be
>>>>> enough. If you can point me where/how to do that it would be great so I
>>>>> can dig in the code (I am not familiar with that code).
>>>>>
>>>>> Thx,
>>>>>        Isaac
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yesterday I did apply the patch (gatt: Remove support of ATT over
>>>> BR/EDR) on bluez-5.41 (my current version) and passed it to the lab. I
>>>> was waiting for their feedback but I did not get a reply yet, so just to
>>>> let you know that I get the patch and applied it.
>>>> As I see it, that patch removed the support for ATT over BR/EDR, so I
>>>> guess that another way to pass that test is modifying the firmware of
>>>> the bluetooth chip to disable it at a hw level.
>>>> And, in order to pass the other test case (BI-35-C), I will need to do
>>>> not apply the mentioned patch and create a similar one for ATT over LE,
>>>> or is there another way to accomplish /TP/GAR/CL/BI-35-C?
>>>
>>> Id assume you would not have to run those tests if ATT over BR/EDR is
>>> not supported:
>>>
>>> 4.5.72 TP/GAR/CL/BI-35-C [Read Characteristic Value \u2013 Invalid
>>> Transport Access over
>>> LE]
>>> Verify Generic Attribute Profile client behavior when an attempt to
>>> use LE transport to execute
>>> the Read Characteristic Value procedure on a characteristic contained
>>> within a service defined
>>> for use only over BR/EDR transport.
>>>
>>> Without BR/EDR there is no reason to run this test as all the
>>> attributes should be valid.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Our product is dual so those tests are mandatory. Additionally, our
>> product is 4.2, no 4.0.
>> The patch you proposed (gatt: Remove support of ATT over BR/EDR) is not
>> valid and will not work (if you want I can add details to the other
>> thread) and it will break other tests needed for the certification. I
>> would suggest to reject it.
>> To put some light in tests BI-34-C and BI-35-C, it consists in define a
>> characteristic only available through the transport layer LE or BR/EDR,
>> so in one case the value can be read, and in the other case it is
>> rejected. I can add more details if needed.
>
> Im pretty sure it is possible since chrome OS has done it:
>
> https://www.bluetooth.org/tpg/QLI_viewQDL.cfm?qid=22333
>
> Though I can see the ATT over BR/EDR is in fact mandatory, the ICS says:
>
> C.1: Mandatory IF (SUM ICS 12/2 “Bluetooth Basic Rate Core Host
> Configuration” OR SUM ICS 12/9
> “Bluetooth Basic Rate and Low Energy Combined Core Host
> Configuration”) is supported,
> otherwise Excluded.
>

I am really like a newbie on this so I have really nothing to help on 
that and I can be completely wrong with my comments. That link you send 
is about 2014, and the specification talks about 4.0. Probably the 
certification has been updated for 4.2. I think(?) that if we were 4.0, 
then we should not be accomplish that test case.

>> Currently the workaround that I am doing is record the type of
>> connection (LE or BR/EDR) and return the error code for one specific
>> characteristic (that I register in my gatt server application), so I
>> customize my application. The lab did not confirm/dismiss it yet, but
>> hopefully it is what they need.
>
> Afaik any service not registered over SDP should not be available over
> BR/EDR, which is perhaps why the current code only does expose GATT
> and GAP service, nothing else. Now I haven't found anything
> prohibiting GATT discovery to happen over BR/EDR, just exchange MTU,
> but the SDP service already carries the handles which I assume is what
> PTS uses given there are tests like:
>
> 4.4.15 TP/GAD/SR/BV-07-C [Discover Primary Services using SDP - from Server]
>

That was the point that initially confused me and I did not understand 
the cert lab. I though that GATT/ATT was only LE.

Detailed GATT/ATT information: Bluetooth Core Specification v5.0 
https://www.bluetooth.com/specifications/bluetooth-core-specification

According to this document (page 254), ‘GATT and ATT are not transport 
specific and can be used in both BR/EDR and LE. However, GATT and ATT 
are mandatory to implement in LE since it is used for discovering services.’


> Anyway, the end result is that we cannot completely disable ATT over
> BR/EDR, and might have to push the bearer details up to the
> application.
>

In fact, I think we should not.

> Note that exposing the connected bearer is not enough in case a device
> connects over both bearers the application will have no means to
> distinguish in which bearer the command is coming from, this appears
> to be a problem to Android HAL as well:
>
> https://android.googlesource.com/platform/hardware/libhardware/+/master/include/hardware/bt_gatt_server.h#71
>
> So probably everyone is passing with a custom application which
> detects, or asks the user input, when to return an error.
>

That was, in fact, our problem to pass this certification test cases. 
And based that I did not find other user complaining about that, I 
assume it is something "new" or well they pass the test by doing some 
custom adjustments.

>> Thanks for the support on this issue. Let me know if I can help in
>> anything, if I need to provide more details, if you want a reply in the
>> patch thread or any other stuff.
>> Regards,
>>     Isaac
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