Re: DBUS API: Retrieve current MTU used by remote device

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Hi Luiz,

On 13.07.2017 13:18, Luiz Augusto von Dentz wrote:
Hi Olivier,

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Olivier MARTIN <olivier@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Luiz,

Ubuntu 16.04 LTS is shipped with bluez v5.37. You could argue Bluez v5.37
does not officially support GATT over DBus as the support is still
experimental which is true. And because v5.37 does not support GATT Long Write, developers should not use Bluez prior to v5.42 (date when GATT D-Bus
API is marked as not experimental anymore).

As the GATT client might also send packet longer than 20 bytes, the client
also needs to support Long Read/Write (same as GATT server).
From my quick search, it looks Long Read/Write support is not well supported by all GATT server/client. I do not know whether it is a correct assumption
or developers are not aware of its support.

At the moment I am using a protocol on top of GATT to send my payload in chunk. I sometimes send payloads as large as 200 bytes. By sending 19 bytes (+ 1 bytes for the application protocol to support chunk) I need 11 GATT characteristic writes while I could send only 1 packet if I knew the ATT MTU
could have been increased to 203 bytes or more.
Throughput is not critical but it has a high importance in my use case
(Human Machine interface).

By increasing my hardcoded payload from 20 bytes to 200 bytes (because I
know the negociated ATT MTU is 512 bytes), my application test time
execution dereases from 32sec to 11sec. If I knew the ATT MTU (for instance from D-Bus Bluez), I could replace the hardcoded value by the negociated
one.

So it is 22 sec of round trips, not only over the air but also D-Bus
message round trips between processes.

If I had some confidence Long Read/Write feature was well supported, I will be happy to use it. But I am worry it is not - but I could be wrong. What do
you think?

If you control both GATT server and client why not use write without
response and notifications, then you can use AcquireWrite and
AcquireNotify and write/read using the given fd and MTU.


I can see AcquireWrite and AcquireNotify are marked as experimental in the current Bluez. So it means it will not be supported by current distributions.

Unfortunately I do not control the GATT server and client. My project is a software protocol that I aim to deploy on various Bluetooth software stack/firmware from various vendors (Bluez, Windows, Apple, Android + different firmware vendor, MCU such as Nordic). I am a bit concern if I use Long Write/Read, I will spend a lot of time supporting Bluetooth stack variations.

I would be happy to use Long Write/Read if the feature could be probed to know if it is supported by the BLE device and fallback to the application protocol if not supported. But I guess by specification, it is assumed the feature is always be present and supported. I am considering to use my application packet protocol by default and use a mechanism to let know the GATT server and client Long Write/Read are supported by both devices to then switch to use them.

Exposing the ATT MTU through Bluez D-BUS API would solve my issue even if it is a workaround in term of GATT specification. For diagnostic purpose, it might still be helpful to have the MTU exposed in D-BUS API. I am happy to have a try to add the support for ATT MTU to Bluez D-BUS Device API myself if you think it is feasible and the patches will be accepted (obviously after being approved on the mailing-list).
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