On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Arend van Spriel <arend@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 06/19/15 17:47, Rob Herring wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Ilya Faenson<ifaenson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Rob. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: linux-bluetooth-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:linux-bluetooth-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Herring >>> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 3:41 PM >>> To: Ilya Faenson >>> Cc: marcel@xxxxxxxxxxxx; Arend Van Spriel; devicetree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; >>> linux-bluetooth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: Re: FW: [PATCH v4 1/4] Broadcom Bluetooth UART Device Tree >>> bindings >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Ilya Faenson<ifaenson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Rob, >>> >>> >>> Your emails are base64 encoded. They should be plain text for the list. >>> >>> IF: The Outlook is configured to respond in the sender's format. I >>> therefore respond in the encoding you've used. >> >> >> I assure you that that is not the case or I would be banished from >> lists by now. Outlook is generally incapable of correctly sending >> mails to lists. The reply header above is one aspect of that. The >> other problem is your replies don't get wrapped and prefixed properly. >> That could be my client I guess, but *all* other mails are fine. >> >> My sent mails have: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> >> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Rob Herring [mailto:robherring2@xxxxxxxxx] >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:03 AM >>>> To: Ilya Faenson >>>> Cc: marcel@xxxxxxxxxxxx; Arend Van Spriel; devicetree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; >>>> linux-bluetooth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: Re: FW: [PATCH v4 1/4] Broadcom Bluetooth UART Device Tree >>>> bindings >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Ilya Faenson<ifaenson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> + devicetree lists >>> >>> >>> [...] >>> >>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/bluetooth/btbcm.txt >>>>> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/bluetooth/btbcm.txt >>>>> new file mode 100644 >>>>> index 0000000..5dbcd57 >>>>> --- /dev/null >>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/bluetooth/btbcm.txt >>>>> @@ -0,0 +1,86 @@ >>>>> +btbcm >>>>> +------ >>>>> + >>>>> +Required properties: >>>>> + >>>>> + - compatible : must be "brcm,brcm-bt-uart". >>>> >>>> >>>> You need to describe the chip, not the interface. >>>> >>>> IF: This driver is for all Broadcom Bluetooth UART based chips. >>> >>> >>> BT only chips? Most/many Broadcom chips are combo chips. I understand >>> the driver for BT is *mostly* separate from other chip functions like >>> WiFi, GPS and NFC, but the h/w is a single chip. I say most because >>> likely there are some parts shared: a voltage rail, reset line, or >>> power down line. I think some can do BT over the SDIO interface too, >>> so the interface may be shared. The DT is a description of the h/w >>> (i.e. what part # for a chip) and not a driver data structure. You >>> need to describe the whole chip in the binding. It is a Linux problem >>> if there needs to be multiple separate drivers. >>> >>> IF: Defining complete DT description for the Broadcom combo chips for >>> multiple interfaces is well beyond the scope of what I am doing. I just need >>> to define a DT node for the input and output GPIOs connected to the BT UART >>> chip. BT may or may not be part of the combo chip: it does not really matter >>> for this exercise. I thought I would take this opportunity to place some BT >>> device parameters into that node as well. If you're not comfortable with >>> this, I could just call it a "GPIO set" to avoid mentioning BT and UART at >>> all but it would make little sense. Still, I could consider it. Would you >>> have "GPIO set" recommendations? Alternatively, NFC Marvell code you're >>> referring to has parameters configured as Linux module parameters. I could >>> do the same too, avoiding this device tree discussion. Let me know. >>> >> >> I don't completely follow what you mean by "GPIO set", but I'm >> guessing that is not the right path. >> >>> Generally speaking (pontification hat on :-)), what you're trying to do >>> (description of the whole chip) is well beyond what say ACPI has done (I was >>> involved some in the BT ACPI exercise a few years ago). BT UART interface is >>> described in ACPI independently of other parts of the same combo chip. >>> Requirements like that slow down the DT development in my opinion as >>> companies are understandably reluctant to work with unrealistic goals. End >>> of pontification. :-) >>> >> >> ACPI and DT are very different models in terms of abstraction and >> governance. I'm not going to hash through all the details. >> >> I'm not necessarily saying we have to have a single node, but that is >> my default position. You have convince me that the functions are >> completely independent and I cannot judge that if you are completely >> ignoring the WiFi part. From Broadcom chips I've worked with, the >> supplies at least are shared (something ACPI does not expose). Perhaps >> we could fudge that and just require the same supply has to be >> connected to each half. I still worry there could be other internal >> inter-dependencies. Perhaps BT requires the SDIO clock to be active or >> something like that. Maybe not on Broadcom chips, but on other vendors >> and I have to care about them all. > > > All Broadcom combo chips that I know of have separate supplies, ie. > wl-reg-on and bt-reg-on. There already is a binding present for the wifi GPIOs are not supplies. For the module I'm working with (43340 based) there is a single VDDIO and VBAT supplies which are shared. Now whether the module or the chip are tying things together, I don't know. There is also a 32kHz clock input. Is that part of WiFi or BT? > part. Not extending that may seem ignorant, but as wifi and bt can have a > separate interface to the host (admittedly they could share SDIO interface, > but they would be exposed as a separate SDIO function) I did not see a > reason to object against a separate binding for BT. Whether wifi and bt are > on the same device does not seem like something that must be expressed in > DT. The physical state may help in determining DT bindings, but it should > not be mandatory in my opinion. We don't need it in DT until we do. Soon as there is some some interdependence, something in DT will be needed. Rob -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-bluetooth" in
