At Thu, 21 May 2015 19:27:41 +0200, Arend van Spriel wrote: > > On 05/21/15 17:35, Takashi Iwai wrote: > > At Thu, 21 May 2015 11:26:17 -0400 (EDT), > > Alan Stern wrote: > >> > >> On Thu, 21 May 2015, Takashi Iwai wrote: > >> > >>> At Thu, 21 May 2015 10:18:08 -0400 (EDT), > >>> Alan Stern wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, 21 May 2015, Takashi Iwai wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Then avoiding the failed firmware is no solution, indeed. > >>>>> If it's a new probe, it should be never executed during resume. > >>>> > >>>> Can you expand this comment? What's wrong with probing during resume? > >>> > >>> Well, if the probe requires the access to a user-space file, it can't > >>> be done during resume. That's the very problem we're seeing now. > >>> The firmware loader can't help much alone if it's a new device > >>> object. > >> > >> But the same thing happens during early boot, if the driver is built > >> into the kernel. When the probe occurs, userspace isn't up and running > >> yet, so the firmware loader can't do anything. > >> > >> Why should probe during resume be any worse than probe during early > >> boot? > > > > The early boot has initrd, so the files can be there. But the resume > > has no way to fetch the file except for cached data. > > but initrd is optional so without initrd it is pretty much the same. User can build the firmware into the kernel. Takashi -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-bluetooth" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html