Hi William, > >> >> Even though dbus-org.bluez.service is set as an alias for the > >> >> bluetooth.service systemd unit file, systemd will not be able to load > >> >> the bluetooth daemon without the daemon being enabled (and the > >> >> dbus-org.bluez.service file linked to bluetooth.service). This patch > >> >> allows the daemon to be loaded by other services on demand. > >> > > >> > as you have noticed we have this in bluetooth.service: > >> > > >> > [Install] > >> > WantedBy=bluetooth.target > >> > Alias=dbus-org.bluez.service > >> > > >> > Isn't this exactly what we want anyway. The service must be enabled > >> > first before it will ever auto-started. Otherwise it just auto-starts > >> > and the user can never get rid of it. > >> > > >> > >> Oh I didn't realize that was the intent. Is that because if it is auto > >> enabled there is no way for the service to be masked to avoid it from > >> auto starting? I was hoping to have the daemon start once it was > >> requested by default. Probably more of a distro choice though. > > > > I am actually curious on what is the best way here. My current thinking > > is that the daemon should be started when hardware is present. Starting > > it only because of a UI applet seems silly if there is no hardware > > present, but I am not sure what's the appropriate default is here. > > That is an interesting point. I was looking at it like I do for > connman, where it will start even if there isn't any network > interfaces currently available and that is expected behavior to me. > Bluez could be waiting on a usb bluetooth adapter to be added just > like connman is waiting on a usb ethernet adapter (and it isn't > obvious to my that this is taking up a much in the way of resources or > adding a lot of wakeups but I don't know). Either way I expect an easy > to turn on and off UI component making either default simple to > correct. Right now, the connman UI I am using just presents a > bluetooth option for enable/disable but it doesn't work as is without > the service being able to autostart without being enabled manually (or > by the distro default). in general the Bluetooth option should only be present if you have bluetoothd running and at least one controller attached. So my thinking is that attaching a controller will start bluetoothd and then connmand will pick up up and present Bluetooth as technology. So that should all work. ConnMan actually detects at runtime the start/restart of bluetoothd. Regards Marcel -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-bluetooth" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html