Re: Getting link quality or RSSI

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On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 20:58, Marcel Holtmann <marcel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Davide,
>
>> >> I'm writing an application to retrieve the current link quality (or
>> >> RSSI) between my laptop's Bluetooth adapter and a specific remote
>> >> device (my mobile phone). In order to do that I'm of course using the
>> >> latest version of BlueZ, but I've encountered several issues so far.
>> >>
>> >> The dbus API exposed by bluetoothd doesn't have any GetRSSI or
>> >> GetLinkQuality methods. Would it be possible to export these methods
>> >> in the public API?
>> >
>> > the link quality is vendor specific according to the specification and
>> > the RSSI of an existing connection is rather useless. So we don't bother
>> > to export those.
>> >
>>
>> Does this mean you're going to reject a patch which adds those methods
>> to the dbus API?
>
> constantly polling them via D-Bus, yes I would reject such a patch. To
> make this proper you would need a kernel patch first that polls the RSSI
> and/or link quality when a ACL is established and not in power saving
> mode. Then you need to use this data to send async signals via D-Bus.
>
> I have done both, let me assure you that some chips don't provide proper
> RSSI values. Then link quality is vendor specific and we can't do
> anything real useful with it (except it is a CSR chip). So I have don't
> the whole exercise and figured out that it is rather useless feature of
> Bluetooth.
>
>> >> Then I looked at the bluetooth HCI library that comes with bluez.
>> >> First of all, is there any reasons why it's totally undocumented?
>> >> Anyway, I noticed hci_read_link_quality() and hci_read_rssi() in
>> >> hci_lib.h and tried using them. Since they seem to require an
>> >> established connection, I also used hci_create_connection(). However I
>> >> soon discovered that creating a connection requires root privileges,
>> >> is that right or did I do something wrong?
>> >>
>> >> Furthermore, even when running the program as root, the connection
>> >> gets established only for a few seconds and then it disconnects from
>> >> the remote device. Is this behaviour intended? How can I specify to
>> >> keep the connection alive indefinitely?
>> >
>> > If you don't have an active connection that is used, the kernel will
>> > terminate any idle ones. So using hcitool for this is rather pointless
>> > unless you have a profile already using that connection.
>> >
>>
>> "using a connection" means pushing some traffic over it?
>> Is there no other way to prevent the kernel from terminating idle connections?
>
> You don't need to transfer data, but you need a reference count on the
> ACL link. And that can only happen by opening a L2CAP socket.
>
>> By the way, I've read in the Bluetooth specs that there exists an
>> extended inquiry mode which allows the host to gather the RSSI of
>> available devices too. How can I perform such kind of inquiry from my
>> application using bluez?
>
> Nice idea, but RSSI from inquiry result and RSSI from an ACL are not the
> same. You can't compare them properly to make sense out of them. I tried
> that as well. Please read the specification again to see their
> difference when it comes to power control on the low level baseband.
>

Well, that's a non-issue. If I decide to go that way, I'll only use
RSSI from inquiry results so I don't need to compare RSSI values
coming from different sources.
How could I trigger an inquiry with RSSI reporting?

Thanks,
Davide
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