Re: Question about ublk and NEED_GET_DATA

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On 2023/4/19 10:31, Ming Lei wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 12:03:40AM +0000, Harris, James R wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I’m working on adding NEED_GET_DATA support to the SPDK ublk server, to avoid allocating I/O buffers until they are actually needed.
>>
>> It is very clear how this works for write commands with NEED_GET_DATA.  We wait to allocate the buffer until we get UBLK_IO_RES_NEED_GET_DATA completion and submit again using UBLK_IO_NEED_GET_DATA.  After we get the UBLK_IO_RES_OK completion from ublk, we submit the block request to the SPDK bdev layer.  After it completes, we submit using UBLK_IO_COMMIT_AND_FETCH_REQ and can free the I/O buffer because the data has been committed.
>>
>> But how does this work for the read path?  On a read, I can wait to allocate the buffer until I get the UBLK_IO_RES_OK completion.  But after the read operation is completed and SPDK submits the UBLK_IO_COMMIT_AND_FETCH_REQ, how do I know when ublk has finished copying data out of the buffer so that I can reuse that buffer?
>>
>> I’m sure I’m missing something obvious, if anyone can provide a pointer I would appreciate it.
> 
> Yeah, it is one known issue.
> 
> But the buffer is guaranteed to be ready for reuse after io_uring_enter()
> returns.
> 
> Also the patch[1] exposes read/write interface to /dev/ublkcN,
> then NEED_GET_DATA becomes not necessary any more. The initial
> motivation is for zero-copy, but it can be used for non-zc too, such as
> don't do any copy in driver side, and simply let userspace cover
> everything:
> 
> 1) ublk server gets one io command, allocate buffer and handle this
> command
> 
> 2) if it is WRITE command, read buffer data via read() from
> /dev/ublkcN, then handle the write by this buffer 
> 
> 3) if it is READ command, handle the read using the allocated buffer,
> and after the data is ready in this buffer, write data in buffer to
> /dev/ublkcN.
> 
> This approach could be cleaner for both sides, but add one extra cost
> of read/write /dev/ublkcN in userspace, and it can be done via io_uring
> too.
> 
> What do you think of this approach?
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-block/20230330113630.1388860-16-ming.lei@xxxxxxxxxx/

This idea is good, IMO.

Regards,
Zhang

> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ming



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