On Saturday 24 December 2022 17:18:51 Borislav Petkov wrote: > On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 05:00:55PM +0100, Pali Rohár wrote: > > Maybe it would be a wise to read a documentation which is in the kernel > > source tree? > > I guess you mean udftools... Yes, pktcdvd tools (pktsetup, pktcdvd-check, cdrwtool) are (for historical reasons) in udftools project. Ok, maybe it is unintuitive to find them here but it is documented in kernel tree. > > Or at least read the deletion patch itself as it is linked from there? > > You mean the documentation file is pointed at there? Yes. In Kconfig option which is being removed, is a documentation link - See the file <file:Documentation/cdrom/packet-writing.rst> - for further information on the use of this driver. > > Or what else could be easier than this? > > Well, apparently it ain't as easy because people do not necessarily see > it how you see it. That's why I'm asking. Yes, in more cases it is not easy. But in this case, when kernel in-tree documentation about this driver was updated in the last year, it is lot of easier than in other cases to get more information about it. I sent this patch to keep links up-to-date for packet-writing.rst file: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-doc/20220210192200.30828-1-pali@xxxxxxxxxx/ (and it was merged) In documentation are mentioned 3 projects which are related to packet writing and all have valid homepages with contact information. > I have removed ancient stuff in the past myself and it is not always > easy to go dig out who uses it and whether it is used at all in the > first place. > > And people do not always reply and projects are dead and they maybe use > it but the machine which has this hw hasn't been booted for a decade and > it ain't worth the enegry to power it back on and so so on and so on... > > So you don't have to get all worked up about it - if it is really used, > I'm sure the maintainers involved will do the right decision. The point > is, finding out whether something still has users and with the latest > kernel is not always trivial. I agree that finding out such information is hard. But do not take me wrong, but if people are lazy and do not look into in-tree kernel documentation and check it, then I'm loosing motivation to keep in-tree kernel documentation up-to-date...