On Sat, Dec 03, 2022 at 07:19:17AM +0300, Javier González wrote: > > > On 2 Dec 2022, at 17.58, Keith Busch <kbusch@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Fri, Dec 02, 2022 at 08:16:30AM +0100, Hannes Reinecke wrote: > >>> On 12/1/22 20:39, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > >>> On Thu, Dec 01, 2022 at 06:12:46PM +0000, Chaitanya Kulkarni wrote: > >>>> So nobody can get away with a lie. > >>> > >>> And yet devices do exist which lie. I'm not surprised that vendors > >>> vehemently claim that they don't, or "nobody would get away with it". > >>> But, of course, they do. And there's no way for us to find out if > >>> they're lying! > >>> > >> But we'll never be able to figure that out unless we try. > >> > >> Once we've tried we will have proof either way. > > > > As long as the protocols don't provide proof-of-work, trying this > > doesn't really prove anything with respect to this concern. > > Is this something we should bring to NVMe? Seems like the main disagreement can be addressed there. Yeah, proof for the host appears to require a new feature, so we'd need to bring this to the TWG. I can draft a TPAR if there's interest and have ideas on how the feature could be implemented, but I currently don't have enough skin in this game to sponser it.