On 7/15/22 3:16 PM, Casey Schaufler wrote: > On 7/15/2022 1:00 PM, Jens Axboe wrote: >> I agree that it should've been part of the initial series. As mentioned >> above, I wasn't much apart of that earlier discussion in the series, and >> hence missed that it was missing. And as also mentioned, LSM isn't much >> on my radar as nobody I know uses it. > > There are well over 6 Billion systems deployed in the wild that use LSM. > Every Android device. Every Samsung TV, camera and watch. Chromebooks. > Data centers. AWS. HPC. Statistically, a system that does not use LSM is > extremely rare. The only systems that *don't* use LSM are the ones hand > configured by Linux developers for their own use. I'm not talking about systems that only I use, but I believe you that it's in wide use. Didn't mean to imply that it isn't, just that since I don't come across it in my work or the people/systems that I've worked with, it hasn't been much on my radar and nobody has asked for it. >> This will cause oversights, even >> if they are unfortunate. My point is just that no ill intent should be >> assumed here. > > I see no ill intent. And io_uring addresses an important issue. > It just needs to work for the majority of Linux systems, not just > the few that don't use LSM. Agree, and hopefully we can make sure that it does, going forward as well. -- Jens Axboe
