One of the core ideas behind io_uring is passing requests via memory shared b/w the userspace and the kernel, a.k.a. queues or rings. That serves a purpose of reducing number of context switches or bypassing them, but the userspace is responsible for controlling the flow, reaping and processing completions (a.k.a. Completion Queue Entry, CQE), and submitting new requests, adding extra context switches even if there is not much work to do. A simple illustration is read(open()), where io_uring is unable to propagate the returned fd to the read, with more cases piling up. The big picture idea stays the same since last year, to give out some of this control to BPF, allow it to check results of completed requests, manipulate memory if needed and submit new requests. Apart from being just a glue between two requests, it might even offer more flexibility like keeping a QD, doing reduce/broadcast and so on. The prototype [1,2] is in a good shape but some work need to be done. However, the main concern is getting an understanding what features and functionality have to be added to be flexible enough. Various toy examples can be found at [3] ([1] includes an overview of cases). Discussion points: - Use cases, feature requests, benchmarking - Userspace programming model, code reuse (e.g. liburing) - BPF-BPF and userspace-BPF synchronisation. There is CQE based notification approach and plans (see design notes), however need to discuss what else might be needed. - Do we need more contexts passed apart from user_data? e.g. specifying a BPF map/array/etc fd io_uring requests? - Userspace atomics and efficiency of userspace reads/writes. If proved to be not performant enough there are potential ways to take on it, e.g. inlining, having it in BPF ISA, and pre-verifying userspace pointers. [1] https://lore.kernel.org/io-uring/a83f147b-ea9d-e693-a2e9-c6ce16659749@xxxxxxxxx/T/#m31d0a2ac6e2213f912a200f5e8d88bd74f81406b [2] https://github.com/isilence/linux/tree/ebpf_v2 [3] https://github.com/isilence/liburing/tree/ebpf_v2/examples/bpf ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Design notes: Instead of basing it on hooks it adds support of a new type of io_uring requests as it gives a better control and let's to reuse internal infrastructure. These requests run a new type of io_uring BPF programs wired with a bunch of new helpers for submitting requests and dealing with CQEs, are allowed to read/write userspace memory in virtue of a recently added sleepable BPF feature. and also provided with a token (generic io_uring token, aka user_data, specified at submission and returned in an CQE), which may be used to pass a userspace pointer used as a context. Besides running BPF programs, they are able to request waiting. Currently it supports CQ waiting for a number of completions, but others might be added and/or needed, e.g. futex and/or requeueing the current BPF request onto an io_uring request/link being submitted. That hides the overhead of creating BPF requests by keeping them alive and invoking multiple times. Another big chunk solved is figuring out a good way of feeding CQEs (potentially many) to a BPF program. The current approach is to enable multiple completion queues (CQ), and specify for each request to which one steer its CQE, so all the synchronisation is in control of the userspace. For instance, there may be a separate CQ per each in-flight BPF request, and they can work with their own queues and send an CQE to the main CQ so notifying the userspace. It also opens up a notification-like sync through CQE posting to neighbours' CQs. -- Pavel Begunkov