Re: [PATCH RFC 2/2] block: Do not discard buffers under a mounted filesystem

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On Tue 25-08-20 13:16:16, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 02:05:54PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> > Discarding blocks and buffers under a mounted filesystem is hardly
> > anything admin wants to do. Usually it will confuse the filesystem and
> > sometimes the loss of buffer_head state (including b_private field) can
> > even cause crashes like:
> 
> Doesn't work if the file system uses multiple devices.

Hum, right.

> I think we just really need to split the fs buffer_head address space
> from the block device one.  Everything else is just going to cause a huge
> mess.

Do you mean that address_space filesystem uses to access its metadata on
/dev/sda will be different from the address_space you will see when reading
say /dev/sda?  Thus these will be completely separate (and incoherent)
caches? Although this would be simple it will break userspace I'm afraid.
There are situations where tools read e.g. superblock of a mounted
filesystem from the block device and rely on the data to be reasonably
recent. Even worse e.g. tune2fs or e2fsck can *modify* superblock of a
mounted filesystem through the block device (e.g. to set 'fsck after X
mounts' fields and similar).

So we would need to somehow maintain at least vague coherence between these
caches which would be ugly.

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@xxxxxxxx>
SUSE Labs, CR



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