Re: [PATCH v2 3/7] bdi: protect device lifetime with RCU

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Hello,

On Wed, Mar 04, 2020 at 02:10:26PM -0500, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 04, 2020 at 01:50:56PM -0500, Tejun Heo wrote:
> > Lifetime rules in block layer are kinda nebulous. Some of it comes
> > from the fact that some objects are reused. Instead of the usual,
> > create-use-release, they get repurposed to be associated with
> > something else. When looking at such an object from some paths, we
> > don't necessarily have ownership of all of the members.
> 
> I wonder if the current rules should be better documented, and that
> perhaps we should revisit some of them so we can tighten them down?

Oh yeah, that'd be nice for sure. We've been papering over stuff
constantly for probably over a decade now. It'd be really nice if we
could clean the house and have sane nominal lifetime rules for block
objects.

> For things that are likely to be long-lived, such as anything
> corresponding to a bdi or block device, perhaps it would be better if
> the lifetime rules can be made tighter?  The cost of needing to
> release and reallocate longer lived objects is going to be negligible,
> and benefits of improving code readability, reliability, and
> robuestness might be well worth it.

I full-heartedly agree. It's just a lot of historical accumulation and
not a lot of manpower directed at cleaning it up.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun



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