On Thu, 2018-10-04 at 11:13 +-0100, Mark Brown wrote: +AD4 On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 at 10:14:38AM +-0200, Linus Walleij wrote: +AD4 +AD4 +AD4 And these are millions and millions of deployed +AD4 +AD4 systems not using udev+-systemd we are talking about, +AD4 +AD4 they are not fringe hobby projects. It's not that I +AD4 +AD4 personally dislike udev or anything, I kind of like +AD4 +AD4 it, but these tailored distros simply don't use it +AD4 +AD4 and they are huge in numbers. They need help to do +AD4 +AD4 the right thing. Fixing a udev rule doesn't solve +AD4 +AD4 even half the world's problems I'm afraid. +AD4 +AD4 Further, even those embedded systems that do use udev (some of them do +AD4 lean heavily on modern init stuff like that and systemd, especially when +AD4 boot time is a priority) they'll still need to get the relevant udev +AD4 rule installed somehow. Hi Mark, Are you aware that the systemd source tree includes a set of udev rules? See also https://github.com/systemd/systemd/tree/master/rules. Bart.