Re: [RFC PATCH v2 0/1] lightnvm: move bad block and chunk state logic to core

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On 08/16/2018 05:53 PM, Javier Gonzalez wrote:
On 16 Aug 2018, at 13.34, Matias Bjørling <mb@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

This patch moves the 1.2 and 2.0 block/chunk metadata retrieval to
core.

Hi Javier, I did not end up using your patch. I had misunderstood what
was implemented. Instead I implemented the detection of the each chunk by
first sensing the first page, then the last page, and if the chunk
is sensed as open, a per page scan will be executed to update the write
pointer appropriately.


I see why you want to do it this way for maintaining the chunk
abstraction, but this is potentially very inefficient as blocks not used
by any target will be recovered unnecessarily.

True. It will up to the target to not ask for more metadata than necessary (similarly for 2.0)

Note that in 1.2, it is
expected that targets will need to recover the write pointer themselves.
What is more, in the normal path, this will be part of the metadata
being stored so no wp recovery is needed. Still, this approach forces
recovery on each 1.2 instance creation (also on factory reset). In this
context, you are right, the patch I proposed only addresses the double
erase issue, which was the original motivator, and left the actual
pointer recovery to the normal pblk recovery process.

Besides this, in order to consider this as a real possibility, we need
to measure the impact on startup time. For this, could you implement
nvm_bb_scan_chunk() and nvm_bb_chunk_sense() more efficiently by
recovering (i) asynchronously and (ii) concurrently across luns so that
we can establish the recovery cost more fairly? We can look at a
specific penalty ranges afterwards.

Honestly, 1.2 is deprecated. I don't care about the performance, I care about being easy to maintain, so it doesn't borg me down in the future.

Back of the envelope calculation for a 64 die SSD with 1024 blocks per die, and 60us read time, will take 4 seconds to scan if all chunks are free, a worst case something like ~10 seconds. -> Not a problem for me.


Also, the recovery scheme in pblk will change significantly by doing
this, so I assume you will send a followup patchset reimplementing
recovery for the 1.2 path?

The 1.2 path shouldn't be necessary after this. That is the idea of this work. Obviously, the set bad block interface will have to preserved and called.



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