On 26/08/17 12:19, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Also… when a hang happened the mouse pointer was frozen, Ctrl-Alt-F1 didn´t > work and so on… so it may easily be a completely different issue. > > I did not see much point in reporting it so far… as I have no idea on how to > reliably pin-point the issue. It happens once every few days, so a bisect > again is out of questions – (it is anyway for a production machine for me) –, > it appears to be a hard freeze, so no debug data… its one of these "you don´t > get to debug me" hangs again. I really have no idea how to a get hold on such > complexity. I am hoping to at least pin-point the exact kernel option that > triggers this issue, but it may take weeks to do so. I´d really love a way for > the kernel to at least to write out debug data before doing hanging > completely. This sounds like what I'm getting - SuSE 42.3, no raid, doesn't happen when the power lead is in (but I think the laptop is configured not to suspend when powered, precisely to avoid exactly this). It happens to me quite often, unfortunately, but it seems a KDE issue in that applications work fine, UNTIL KDE seems to get control of the mouse at which point I can't do anything. I've got a feeling it's related to wireless networking actually, my setup is somewhat borked because KDE, systemd, and wifi don't seem to work nicely together :-( Cheers, Wol