Re: [PATCH 0/2] New zoned loop block device driver

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On Mon, Jan 06, 2025 at 08:38:26AM -0700, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 1/6/25 8:32 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 06, 2025 at 08:24:06AM -0700, Jens Axboe wrote:
> >> A lot more code where?
> > 
> > Very good and relevant question.  Some random new repo that no one knows
> > about?  Not very helpful.  xfstests itself?  Maybe, but that would just
> > means other users have to fork it.
> 
> Why would they have to fork it? Just put it in xfstests itself. These
> are very weak reasons, imho.

Because that way other users can't use it.  Damien has already mentioned
some.

And someone would actually have to write that hypothetical thing.

> >> Not in the kernel. And now we're stuck with a new
> >> driver for a relatively niche use case. Seems like a bad tradeoff to me.
> > 
> > Seriously, if you can't Damien and me to maintain a little driver
> > using completely standard interfaces without any magic you'll have
> > different problems keepign the block layer alive :)
> 
> Asking "why do we need this driver, when we can accomplish the same with
> existing stuff"

There is no "existing stuff"

> is a valid question, and I'm a bit puzzled why we can't
> just have a reasonable discussion about this.

I think this is a valid and reasonable discussion.  But maybe we're
just not on the same page.  I don't know anything existing and usable,
maybe I've just not found it?





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