On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 04:45:56PM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 09:41:39AM -0600, Keith Busch wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 05:55:26AM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 10:22:56AM -0600, Keith Busch wrote: > > > > > > > No need to create a new fcntl. The people already testing this are > > > > successfully using FDP with the existing fcntl hints. Their applications > > > > leverage FDP as way to separate files based on expected lifetime. It is > > > > how they want to use it and it is working above expectations. > > > > > > FYI, I think it's always fine and easy to map the temperature hits to > > > write streams if that's all the driver offers. It loses a lot of the > > > capapilities, but as long as it doesn't enforce a lower level interface > > > that never exposes more that's fine. > > > > But that's just the v2 from this sequence: > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-nvme/20240528150233.55562-1-joshi.k@xxxxxxxxxxx/ > > > > If you're okay with it now, then let's just go with that and I'm happy > > continue iterating on the rest separately. > > That's exactly what I do not want - it takes the temperature hints > and force them into the write streams down in the driver What??? You said to map the temperature hints to a write stream. The driver offers that here. But you specifically don't want that? I'm so confused. > with no way to make actually useful use of the stream separation. Have you tried it? The people who actually do easily demonstrate it is in fact very useful.