Re: [PATCH] zram: easy the allocation of zcomp_strm's buffers with 2 pages

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On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 10:35 AM Sergey Senozhatsky
<senozhatsky@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On (24/01/06 15:38), Barry Song wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 9:30 AM Sergey Senozhatsky
> > <senozhatsky@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > On (24/01/03 13:30), Barry Song wrote:
> > > > There is no need to keep zcomp_strm's buffers contiguous physically.
> > > > And rarely, 1-order allocation can fail while buddy is seriously
> > > > fragmented.
> > >
> > > Dunno. Some of these don't sound like convincing reasons, I'm afraid.
> > > We don't allocate compression streams all the time, we do it once
> > > per-CPU. And if the system is under such a terrible memory pressure
> >
> > We actually do it many times actually because we free it while unplugging and
> > re-allocate it during hotplugging. this can happen quite often for systems like
> > Android using hotplug for power management.
>
> Okay, makes sense.
> Do you see these problems in real life? I don't recall any reports.

i don't have problems with the current zram which supports normal pages only.

but  in our out-of-tree code, we have enhanced zram/zsmalloc to support large
folios compression/decompression, which will make zram work much better
with large anon folios/mTHP things on which Ryan Roberts is working on.

I mean, a large folio with for example 16 normal pages can be saved as
one object in zram.
In millions of phones, we have deployed this approach and seen huge improvement
on compression ratio and cpu consumption decrease. in that case, we
need a larger
per-cpu buffer, and have seen frequent failure on allocation. that
inspired me to send
this patch in advance.

>
> > > then one probably should not use zram at all, because zsmalloc needs
> > > pages for its pool.
> >
> > In my humble opinion, 1-order allocation and 0-order allocation are different
> > things, 1-order is still more difficult though it is easier than
> > 2-order which was
> > a big pain causing allocation latency for tasks' kernel stacks and negatively
> > affecting user experience. it has now been replaced by vmalloc and makes
> > life easier :-)
>
> Sure.
>
> > > I also wonder whether Android uses HW compression, in which case we
> > > may need to have physically contig pages. Not to mention TLB shootdowns
> > > that virt contig pages add to the picture.
> >
> > I don't understand how HW compression and TLB shootdown are related as zRAM
> > is using a traditional comp API.
>
> Oh, those are not related. TLB shootdowns are what now will be added to
> all compressions/decompressions, so it's sort of extra cost.

i am sorry i still don't understand where the tlb shootdowns come
from. we don't unmap
this per-cpu buffers during compression and decompression, do we ?

am i missing something?

> HW compression (which android may be doing?) is another story.
>
> Did you run any perf tests on zram w/ and w/o the patch?
>
> > We are always passing a virtual address, traditional HW drivers use their own
> > buffers to do DMA.
> >
> > int crypto_comp_compress(struct crypto_comp *comp,
> > const u8 *src, unsigned int slen,
> > u8 *dst, unsigned int *dlen);
> > int crypto_comp_decompress(struct crypto_comp *comp,
> >   const u8 *src, unsigned int slen,
> >   u8 *dst, unsigned int *dlen);
> >
> > In new acomp API, we are passing a sg - users' buffers to drivers directly,
> > sg_init_one(&input, src, entry->length);
> > sg_init_table(&output, 1);
> > sg_set_page(&output, page, PAGE_SIZE, 0);
> > acomp_request_set_params(acomp_ctx->req, &input, &output, entry->length, dlen);
> > ret = crypto_wait_req(crypto_acomp_decompress(acomp_ctx->req),
> > &acomp_ctx->wait);
> >
> > but i agree one-nents sg might have some advantage in scompress case
>
> Right.
>
> > after we move
> > to new acomp APIs if we have this patch I sent recently [patch 3/3],
> > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20240103095006.608744-1-21cnbao@xxxxxxxxx/
>
> Nice.

Thanks
Barry





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