On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 12:39:00PM -0700, Bart Van Assche wrote: > On 9/21/23 12:27, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 07:27:08AM -0700, Bart Van Assche wrote: > > > On 9/21/23 00:46, Niklas Cassel wrote: > > > > Should NVMe streams be brought back? Yes? No? > > > > > > From commit 561593a048d7 ("Merge tag 'for-5.18/write-streams-2022-03-18' > > > of git://git.kernel.dk/linux-block"): "This removes the write streams > > > support in NVMe. No vendor ever really shipped working support for this, > > > and they are not interested in supporting it." > > > > It sounds like UFS is at the same stage that NVMe got to -- standard > > exists, no vendor has committed to actually shipping it. Isn't bringing > > it back a little premature? > > Hi Matthew, > > That's a misunderstanding. UFS vendors support interpreting the SCSI GROUP > NUMBER as a data temperature since many years, probably since more than ten > years. Additionally, for multiple UFS vendors having the data temperature > available is important for achieving good performance. This message shows > how UFS vendors were using that information before write hint support was > removed: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-block/PH0PR08MB7889642784B2E1FC1799A828DB0B9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/ If vendor support already exists, then why did you dodge the question asking for quantified data that I asked earlier? And can we have that data now?