On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 1:08 PM Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > The reason why I think the lvalue of a "=" operator can be argued to be > "special" is because it is simply invalid to apply many of the C > operators to an lvalue (e.g. +, -, /, ...), Mathieu, you are simply objectively wrong. See here: #define m1(x) (x = 2) #define m2(x) ((x) = 2) and then try using the argument "a = b" to those macros. Guess which one flags it as an error ("lvalue required") and which one does not? m2 is the only "good" one. Yes, m1 works in 99% of all cases in practice, but if you want a safer macro, you *will* add the parentheses. So *STOP*ARGUING* based on an incorrect "lowest precedence" basis. Even for the "lowest precedence" case, you have the *same* precedence. The fact is, assignment is not in any way special operation in macros, and does not deserve - and should absolutely not have - any special "doesn't need parentheses around argument" rules. Linus