Re: [RFC 0/3] nvme uring passthrough diet

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On Wed, May 03, 2023 at 09:20:04AM -0600, Keith Busch wrote:
On Wed, May 03, 2023 at 12:57:17PM +0530, Kanchan Joshi wrote:
On Mon, May 01, 2023 at 08:33:03AM -0700, Keith Busch wrote:
> From: Keith Busch <kbusch@xxxxxxxxxx>
>
> When you disable all the optional features in your kernel config and
> request queue, it looks like the normal request dispatching is just as
> fast as any attempts to bypass it. So let's do that instead of
> reinventing everything.
>
> This doesn't require additional queues or user setup. It continues to
> work with multiple threads and processes, and relies on the well tested
> queueing mechanisms that track timeouts, handle tag exhuastion, and sync
> with controller state needed for reset control, hotplug events, and
> other error handling.

I agree with your point that there are some functional holes in
the complete-bypass approach. Yet the work was needed to be done
to figure out the gain (of approach) and see whether the effort to fill
these holes is worth.

On your specific points
- requiring additional queues: not a showstopper IMO.
 If queues are lying unused with HW, we can reap more performance by
 giving those to application. If not, we fall back to the existing path.
 No disruption as such.

The current way we're reserving special queues is bad and should
try to not extend it futher. It applies to the whole module and
would steal resources from some devices that don't want poll queues.
If you have a mix of device types in your system, the low end ones
don't want to split their resources this way.

NVMe has no problem creating new queues on the fly. Queue allocation
doesn't have to be an initialization thing, but you would need to
reserve the QID's ahead of time.

Totally in agreement with that. Jens also mentioned this point.
And I had added preallocation in my to-be-killed list. Thanks for
expanding.
Related to that, I think one-qid-per-ring also need to be lifted.
That should allow to do io on two/more devices with the single ring
and see how well that scales.

- tag exhaustion: that is not missing, a retry will be made. I actually
 wanted to do single command-id management at the io_uring level itself,
 and that would have cleaned things up. But it did not fit in
 because of submission/completion lifetime differences.
- timeout and other bits you mentioned: yes, those need more work.

Now with the alternate proposed in this series, I doubt whether similar
gains are possible. Happy to be wrong if that happens.

One other thing: the pure-bypass does appear better at low queue
depths, but utilizing the plug for aggregated sq doorbell writes
is a real win at higher queue depths from this series. Batching
submissions at 4 deep is the tipping point on my test box; this
series outperforms pure bypass at any higher batch count.

I see. I hit 5M cliff without plug/batching primarily because pure-bypass
is reducing the code to do the IO. But plug/batching is needed to get
better at this.
If we create space for a pointer in io_uring_cmd, that can get added in
the plug list (in place of struct request). That will be one way to sort
out the plugging.





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