Re: [PATCH 4/4] nbd: add a nbd-control interface

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On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Greg KH <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 09:57:52AM -0500, Josef Bacik wrote:
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Greg KH <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
 > On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 09:42:08AM -0500, Josef Bacik wrote:
 > >
 > >
 > >  On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 4:05 AM, Greg KH
 > > <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
 > >  > On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 04:56:52PM -0500, Josef Bacik wrote:
> > > > This patch mirrors the loop back device behavior with a few
 > >  > > changes.  First
> > > > there is no DEL operation as NBD doesn't get as much churn as
 > > loop
 > >  > > devices do.
> > > > Secondly the GET_NEXT operation can optionally create a new NBD
 > >  > > device or not.
> > > > Our infrastructure people want to not allow NBD to create new
 > >  > > devices as it
> > > > causes problems for them in containers. However allow this to
 > > be
 > >  > > optional as
> > > > things like the OSS NBD client probably doesn't care and would
 > > like
 > >  > > to just be
 > >  > >  given a device to use.
 > >  > >
 > >  > >  Signed-off-by: Josef Bacik <jbacik@xxxxxx>
 > >  >
 > >  > A random char device with odd ioctls?  Why?  There's no other
 > >  > configuration choice you could possibly use?  Where is the
 > > userspace
 > >  > tool that uses this new kernel api?
 > >  >
> > > You aren't passing in structures to the ioctl, so why does this
 > > HAVE to
 > >  > be an ioctl?
 > >
 > >  Again, this is how loop does it so I assumed a known, regularly
 > > used API was
> > the best bet. I can do literally anything, but these interfaces
 > > have to be
 > >  used by other people, including internal people.  The
 > > /dev/whatever-control
 > >  is a well established way for interacting with dynamic device
 > > drivers (loop,
 > >  DM, btrfs), so that's what I went with.  Thanks,
 >
 > Again, please don't duplicate what loop did, we must _learn_ from
 > history, not repeat it :(

Sure but what am I supposed to do? Have some random sysfs knobs? Thanks,

It all depends on what you are trying to do. I have yet to figure that
out at all here :(

I explained it in the changelog and my response to Wouter. NBD preallocates all of its /dev/nbd# devices at modprobe time, so there's no way to add new devices as we need them. Loop accomplishes this with the /dev/loop-control and an ioctl. Then we also need a way to figure out what is the first /dev/nbd# device that isn't currently in use in order to pick the next one to configure. Keep in mind that all of the configuration for /dev/nbd# devices is done through ioctls to those devices, so having a ioctl interface for the control device is consistent with the rest of how NBD works. Thanks,

Josef

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