Hello Jens, hello block level and vm/mm developers, I am still seeing this in kernel 4.5. Bug 83561 - Suboptimal chainsaw behavior in copying between to SD cards https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83561 Its basically the same what happens when rsyncing onto an NFS mount when the network connection is slower than local disks. Is this something your recent patches addressing bufferbloat in block layer will address, Jens? Quote from bug report: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83561#c3 It still happens with 4.5. One is 64 GB microSDXC card in Sansa Clip Zip with Rockbox and one is 128 GB microSDXC card in ThinkPad T520 SD card slot (with MicroSD- to SD adpter). procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- -system-- ------cpu----- r b swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us sy id wa st 1 0 196228 1573564 36880 10992876 0 0 0 0 428 1161 2 1 97 0 0 0 0 196228 1573564 36880 10992876 0 0 0 0 583 1521 4 1 95 0 0 0 1 196228 1573392 37324 10992448 0 0 402 0 3007 9127 2 2 79 17 0 0 1 196228 1572400 38108 10992872 0 0 712 0 4881 15128 1 1 75 23 0 0 1 196228 1572056 38828 10992604 0 0 733 0 5000 15539 1 1 76 22 0 1 1 196228 1570752 39556 10992816 0 0 717 4096 5306 16228 4 3 69 24 0 1 1 196228 1558336 40320 10992904 0 0 737 0 5238 16127 8 2 69 22 0 1 1 196228 1555860 41028 10993544 0 0 708 0 5143 16368 5 3 69 23 0 0 1 196228 1555568 41752 10993912 0 0 707 0 4923 15231 1 2 72 25 0 0 1 196228 1546780 47424 10995560 0 0 541 0 4126 12293 2 6 72 20 0 0 1 196228 1544976 48180 10995188 0 0 707 96 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1159 2668 4 3 70 23 0 0 1 196220 1048748 49344 11489472 0 0 6016 0 1528 5748 8 4 65 23 0 0 1 196220 1046044 49344 11492340 0 0 1026 16384 1354 2706 3 3 71 23 0 0 1 196220 1046044 49344 11491888 0 0 0 6144 1026 1732 4 2 71 23 0 0 1 196220 1045920 49344 11491892 0 0 0 10242 1045 1480 2 2 72 24 0 0 1 196220 1045920 49344 11491892 0 0 0 6144 843 1294 2 2 73 23 0 0 1 196220 1045748 49344 11491892 0 0 0 10344 1185 1843 2 2 71 24 0 0 1 196220 1044008 49344 11493652 0 0 896 3854 981 1510 2 2 72 24 0 0 1 196220 1031124 49344 11506376 0 0 5888 0 1624 2934 4 4 70 22 0 0 1 196220 1018980 49348 11519012 0 0 5760 0 1022 2150 4 3 71 23 0 1 1 196220 1005888 49348 11531276 0 0 5760 0 1089 2264 5 3 71 22 0 0 1 196220 993080 49348 11544844 0 0 5888 10 1119 2317 5 2 70 24 0 0 1 196220 979736 49348 11557444 0 0 5760 0 1058 2151 4 3 70 23 0 0 1 196220 967384 49348 11570240 0 0 5760 32 1010 2284 4 3 71 22 0 0 1 196220 957160 49348 11583592 0 0 5888 0 1010 2143 4 3 71 22 0 0 1 196220 945960 49352 11595572 0 0 5760 0 982 2160 4 2 71 23 0 1 1 196220 931872 49352 11608392 0 0 5760 0 1044 2141 5 3 70 22 0 0 1 196220 919612 49352 11621472 0 0 5760 0 1001 2120 4 3 70 24 0 0 1 196220 905032 49352 11634160 0 0 5888 0 1048 2275 4 3 71 23 0 0 1 196220 891960 49352 11646816 0 0 5760 0 1079 2334 4 3 70 23 0 1 1 196220 878828 49352 11660220 0 0 5888 88 1167 2602 4 3 71 22 0 1 0 196220 865732 49356 11672788 0 0 6016 0 1471 5419 9 4 65 23 0 0 1 196220 852312 49356 11685556 0 0 5888 0 1217 2741 4 3 71 23 0 0 1 196220 845312 49356 11694272 0 0 3771 12288 1173 2365 4 3 70 23 0 0 1 196220 845156 49356 11694980 0 0 0 6144 1488 3101 8 2 65 25 0 0 1 196220 845164 49356 11694980 0 0 0 10240 1299 2230 3 2 71 24 0 0 2 196220 844420 49356 11695432 0 0 0 5660 1262 2998 3 3 54 41 0 1 2 196220 847428 49356 11695432 0 0 0 3212 872 2575 4 1 48 47 0 0 2 196220 845924 49356 11695436 0 0 0 14075 1133 3157 2 2 48 48 0 I didn´t measure, but I estimate that delay caused by this for microSD cards which can do somewhat around 5-10 MiB/s excessive buffering delays the operation by roughly a factor of 2. What happens when I watch /proc/meminfo is that it builds up caches of up to 60 MiB and then it writes it out and especially when rsync() closes the file it then waits for the file to be written and rsync doesn´t yet load the next file… … which of course is also something that could be optimized in rsync. Thanks -- Martin -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-block" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
