A note and a question on discarding, from a novice bcache user

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I use bcache on some Dell R510s, using an IT-mode HBA, 10 3TB SAS
drives and one 120GB, DRZAT-capable SSD as my caching device.

I noticed my `fio` benchmarks weren't what they once were, despite
starting with writeback caching, almost no dirty_data, and 10
writeback_percent. Running `fio -filename=/devel/testfio.file
-direct=1 -rw=randwrite -bs=4k -size=1G  -name=randwrite
-runtime=60`, I got:


randwrite: (g=0): rw=randwrite, bs=(R) 4096B-4096B, (W) 4096B-4096B,
(T) 4096B-4096B, ioengine=psync, iodepth=1
fio-3.16
Starting 1 process
Jobs: 1 (f=1): [w(1)][100.0%][w=1100KiB/s][w=275 IOPS][eta 00m:00s]
randwrite: (groupid=0, jobs=1): err= 0: pid=961776: Sun Feb 21 23:50:25 2021
  write: IOPS=710, BW=2841KiB/s (2909kB/s)(166MiB/60001msec); 0 zone resets
    clat (usec): min=57, max=109650, avg=1403.63, stdev=5516.41
     lat (usec): min=57, max=109651, avg=1404.13, stdev=5516.43
    clat percentiles (usec):
     |  1.00th=[    70],  5.00th=[   105], 10.00th=[   126], 20.00th=[   155],
     | 30.00th=[   172], 40.00th=[   190], 50.00th=[   204], 60.00th=[   229],
     | 70.00th=[   255], 80.00th=[   314], 90.00th=[  2933], 95.00th=[  8291],
     | 99.00th=[ 14746], 99.50th=[ 18744], 99.90th=[ 89654], 99.95th=[ 96994],
     | 99.99th=[101188]
   bw (  KiB/s): min=  272, max=21672, per=100.00%, avg=2840.09,
stdev=5749.02, samples=120
   iops        : min=   68, max= 5418, avg=709.97, stdev=1437.26, samples=120
  lat (usec)   : 100=3.89%, 250=64.70%, 500=13.42%, 750=0.06%, 1000=0.14%
  lat (msec)   : 2=4.17%, 4=4.37%, 10=7.02%, 20=1.80%, 50=0.10%
  lat (msec)   : 100=0.31%, 250=0.02%
  cpu          : usr=0.91%, sys=4.91%, ctx=45330, majf=0, minf=28
  IO depths    : 1=100.0%, 2=0.0%, 4=0.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     submit    : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     complete  : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     issued rwts: total=0,42611,0,0 short=0,0,0,0 dropped=0,0,0,0
     latency   : target=0, window=0, percentile=100.00%, depth=1

Run status group 0 (all jobs):
  WRITE: bw=2841KiB/s (2909kB/s), 2841KiB/s-2841KiB/s
(2909kB/s-2909kB/s), io=166MiB (175MB), run=60001-60001msec

Disk stats (read/write):
    dm-6: ios=0/42532, merge=0/0, ticks=0/58924, in_queue=58924,
util=51.03%, aggrios=0/42680, aggrmerge=0/0, aggrticks=0/60832,
aggrin_queue=60832, aggrutil=51.25%
    bcache0: ios=0/42680, merge=0/0, ticks=0/60832, in_queue=60832,
util=51.25%, aggrios=25/21934, aggrmerge=0/4, aggrticks=744/27768,
aggrin_queue=21904, aggrutil=33.72%
  sdh: ios=50/40244, merge=0/9, ticks=1488/55537, in_queue=43808, util=33.72%
    md0: ios=0/3624, merge=0/0, ticks=0/0, in_queue=0, util=0.00%,
aggrios=0/801, aggrmerge=0/2, aggrticks=0/5289, aggrin_queue=3676,
aggrutil=9.98%
  sdn: ios=0/810, merge=0/4, ticks=0/5367, in_queue=3820, util=9.63%
  sdm: ios=0/804, merge=0/3, ticks=0/5332, in_queue=3672, util=9.75%
  sdl: ios=0/771, merge=0/0, ticks=0/5041, in_queue=3484, util=9.18%
  sdk: ios=0/771, merge=0/0, ticks=0/5097, in_queue=3532, util=9.20%
  sdj: ios=0/796, merge=0/1, ticks=0/5464, in_queue=3792, util=9.60%
  sdi: ios=0/810, merge=0/4, ticks=0/5184, in_queue=3616, util=9.68%
  sdg: ios=0/826, merge=0/5, ticks=0/5396, in_queue=3716, util=9.98%
  sdf: ios=0/804, merge=0/3, ticks=0/5259, in_queue=3632, util=9.68%
  sde: ios=0/796, merge=0/1, ticks=0/5195, in_queue=3600, util=9.60%
  sda: ios=0/826, merge=0/5, ticks=0/5555, in_queue=3896, util=9.95%


Discard was internally disabled. When this last came to a head, I'd
detached, unregistered, blkdiscarded and re-created the caching
device. I figured this time I'd record the difference:


randwrite: (g=0): rw=randwrite, bs=(R) 4096B-4096B, (W) 4096B-4096B,
(T) 4096B-4096B, ioengine=psync, iodepth=1
fio-3.16
Starting 1 process
Jobs: 1 (f=1): [w(1)][100.0%][w=37.0MiB/s][w=9727 IOPS][eta 00m:00s]
randwrite: (groupid=0, jobs=1): err= 0: pid=964090: Mon Feb 22 00:18:58 2021
  write: IOPS=12.0k, BW=46.0MiB/s (49.2MB/s)(1024MiB/21810msec); 0 zone resets
    clat (usec): min=53, max=7696, avg=80.65, stdev=106.39
     lat (usec): min=53, max=7696, avg=80.93, stdev=106.41
    clat percentiles (usec):
     |  1.00th=[   56],  5.00th=[   56], 10.00th=[   57], 20.00th=[   57],
     | 30.00th=[   57], 40.00th=[   58], 50.00th=[   60], 60.00th=[   61],
     | 70.00th=[   68], 80.00th=[   77], 90.00th=[  118], 95.00th=[  178],
     | 99.00th=[  330], 99.50th=[  570], 99.90th=[ 1156], 99.95th=[ 1385],
     | 99.99th=[ 5932]
   bw (  KiB/s): min=21528, max=53232, per=100.00%, avg=48162.42,
stdev=5760.66, samples=43
   iops        : min= 5382, max=13308, avg=12040.56, stdev=1440.15, samples=43
  lat (usec)   : 100=87.07%, 250=10.97%, 500=1.31%, 750=0.33%, 1000=0.14%
  lat (msec)   : 2=0.16%, 4=0.01%, 10=0.01%
  cpu          : usr=5.64%, sys=28.81%, ctx=262153, majf=0, minf=28
  IO depths    : 1=100.0%, 2=0.0%, 4=0.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     submit    : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     complete  : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     issued rwts: total=0,262144,0,0 short=0,0,0,0 dropped=0,0,0,0
     latency   : target=0, window=0, percentile=100.00%, depth=1

Run status group 0 (all jobs):
  WRITE: bw=46.0MiB/s (49.2MB/s), 46.0MiB/s-46.0MiB/s
(49.2MB/s-49.2MB/s), io=1024MiB (1074MB), run=21810-21810msec

Disk stats (read/write):
    dm-6: ios=0/260278, merge=0/0, ticks=0/16632, in_queue=16632,
util=99.17%, aggrios=0/262165, aggrmerge=0/0, aggrticks=0/16316,
aggrin_queue=16316, aggrutil=99.10%
    bcache0: ios=0/262165, merge=0/0, ticks=0/16316, in_queue=16316,
util=99.10%, aggrios=0/132040, aggrmerge=0/0, aggrticks=0/8358,
aggrin_queue=10, aggrutil=99.54%
  sdh: ios=0/264068, merge=0/1, ticks=0/16716, in_queue=20, util=99.54%
    md0: ios=0/12, merge=0/0, ticks=0/0, in_queue=0, util=0.00%,
aggrios=0/3, aggrmerge=0/0, aggrticks=0/49, aggrin_queue=44,
aggrutil=0.09%
  sdn: ios=0/3, merge=0/0, ticks=0/24, in_queue=16, util=0.09%
  sdm: ios=0/3, merge=0/0, ticks=0/37, in_queue=32, util=0.09%
  sdl: ios=0/3, merge=0/0, ticks=0/28, in_queue=20, util=0.09%
  sdk: ios=0/3, merge=0/0, ticks=0/37, in_queue=32, util=0.09%
  sdj: ios=0/3, merge=0/0, ticks=0/41, in_queue=32, util=0.09%
  sdi: ios=0/3, merge=0/0, ticks=0/33, in_queue=28, util=0.09%
  sdg: ios=0/3, merge=0/0, ticks=0/39, in_queue=32, util=0.09%
  sdf: ios=0/3, merge=0/0, ticks=0/206, in_queue=204, util=0.09%
  sde: ios=0/3, merge=0/0, ticks=0/18, in_queue=16, util=0.07%
  sda: ios=0/3, merge=0/0, ticks=0/36, in_queue=28, util=0.09%


I'm did one last, ten-times larger/longer `fio` with 1 in
/sys/fs/bcache/<CSET-UID>/cache0/discard to see how far performance
decreases with discard enabled:


randwrite: (g=0): rw=randwrite, bs=(R) 4096B-4096B, (W) 4096B-4096B,
(T) 4096B-4096B, ioengine=psync, iodepth=1
fio-3.16
Starting 1 process
randwrite: Laying out IO file (1 file / 10240MiB)
Jobs: 1 (f=1): [w(1)][100.0%][w=36.5MiB/s][w=9348 IOPS][eta 00m:00s]
randwrite: (groupid=0, jobs=1): err= 0: pid=965082: Mon Feb 22 00:42:15 2021
  write: IOPS=4598, BW=17.0MiB/s (18.8MB/s)(10.0GiB/570024msec); 0 zone resets
    clat (usec): min=62, max=3572.6k, avg=214.15, stdev=3139.18
     lat (usec): min=62, max=3572.6k, avg=214.51, stdev=3139.18
    clat percentiles (usec):
     |  1.00th=[   73],  5.00th=[   74], 10.00th=[   75], 20.00th=[   77],
     | 30.00th=[   79], 40.00th=[   82], 50.00th=[   88], 60.00th=[  109],
     | 70.00th=[  133], 80.00th=[  178], 90.00th=[  253], 95.00th=[  322],
     | 99.00th=[ 2868], 99.50th=[ 3294], 99.90th=[ 5800], 99.95th=[ 7177],
     | 99.99th=[16581]
   bw (  KiB/s): min=    8, max=40416, per=100.00%, avg=18686.70,
stdev=6454.00, samples=1122
   iops        : min=    2, max=10104, avg=4671.65, stdev=1613.50, samples=1122
  lat (usec)   : 100=56.23%, 250=33.37%, 500=6.13%, 750=0.25%, 1000=0.23%
  lat (msec)   : 2=1.86%, 4=1.56%, 10=0.34%, 20=0.02%, 50=0.01%
  lat (msec)   : 100=0.01%, 250=0.01%, 500=0.01%, 750=0.01%, 1000=0.01%
  lat (msec)   : 2000=0.01%, >=2000=0.01%
  cpu          : usr=2.98%, sys=24.09%, ctx=2627574, majf=0, minf=290
  IO depths    : 1=100.0%, 2=0.0%, 4=0.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     submit    : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     complete  : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     issued rwts: total=0,2621440,0,0 short=0,0,0,0 dropped=0,0,0,0
     latency   : target=0, window=0, percentile=100.00%, depth=1

Run status group 0 (all jobs):
  WRITE: bw=17.0MiB/s (18.8MB/s), 17.0MiB/s-17.0MiB/s
(18.8MB/s-18.8MB/s), io=10.0GiB (10.7GB), run=570024-570024msec

Disk stats (read/write):
    dm-6: ios=391/3106283, merge=0/0, ticks=736/4853852,
in_queue=4854588, util=95.23%, aggrios=391/3283448, aggrmerge=0/0,
aggrticks=736/6225524, aggrin_queue=6226260, aggrutil=95.26%
    bcache0: ios=391/3283448, merge=0/0, ticks=736/6225524,
in_queue=6226260, util=95.26%, aggrios=757/1636344, aggrmerge=0/66269,
aggrticks=1091/448125, aggrin_queue=161104, aggrutil=96.70%
  sdh: ios=1115/2834033, merge=0/132539, ticks=2182/896251,
in_queue=322208, util=96.70%
    md0: ios=400/438656, merge=0/0, ticks=0/0, in_queue=0, util=0.00%,
aggrios=40/7874, aggrmerge=0/11639, aggrticks=72/58025,
aggrin_queue=42586, aggrutil=7.89%
  sdn: ios=99/7785, merge=0/11272, ticks=150/53355, in_queue=37896, util=7.67%
  sdm: ios=0/7980, merge=0/12045, ticks=0/64933, in_queue=49832, util=7.70%
  sdl: ios=0/7837, merge=0/11695, ticks=0/57164, in_queue=41792, util=7.71%
  sdk: ios=121/7828, merge=0/11704, ticks=175/58327, in_queue=42896, util=7.74%
  sdj: ios=43/7859, merge=0/11688, ticks=130/60166, in_queue=44732, util=7.69%
  sdi: ios=2/7790, merge=0/11267, ticks=30/55933, in_queue=40184, util=7.61%
  sdg: ios=0/7913, merge=0/11496, ticks=0/54869, in_queue=39644, util=7.78%
  sdf: ios=74/7975, merge=0/12050, ticks=103/59438, in_queue=44000, util=7.89%
  sde: ios=0/7871, merge=0/11676, ticks=0/56695, in_queue=40908, util=7.68%
  sda: ios=61/7906, merge=0/11503, ticks=133/59371, in_queue=43980, util=7.72%


So, a performance drop down to about 17MiB/s from the completely
fresh, discarded drive. I will have to wait and see if it drops any
further over time.

I'm aware of the main reason for not automatically enabling discard --
it's unqueued with earlier SATA revisions -- but are there any other
disadvantages to it? I can see why never discarding data would be
problematic for most consumer SSDs, but I'm not aware (and would like
to be) if there have been any reports of data getting eaten.

Thank you for bcache. Perhaps the silver lining here is that I could
wrangle with this issue without too much documentation or first
needing to poke the mailing list; I just wish some of these things
were more obvious.

Martin



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