Coly-- That sounds great-- thanks for your help and advice. I'm about to send an updated patch, adapted for the other 4.14 patches and with the fixed comment. I've run a few fio write-heavy scenarios with SATA and NVMe SSD in front of a very slow USB disk--- the control system seems fairly effective and gentle, e.g. http://i.imgur.com/RmWqnxg.png Mike On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Coly Li <i@xxxxxxx> wrote: > On 2017/9/7 下午11:29, Michael Lyle wrote: >> Coly-- >> >> Sure. I have some plots at http://jar.lyle.org/~mlyle/ctr/ -- they >> show the response of the controller to a step (increase from 0 to 1000 >> sectors/second of IO), and to an impulse (a single unexpected 100,000 >> sectors of dirty data) showing up. >> >> If anything, this controller is quicker to "turn off writes" and >> remove workload from the backing disks than the previous one (though >> how much it flushes when "idle" is configurable, now). I would often >> see the old controller continue writing back data long after the >> workload was removed, or oscillate between writing large amounts and >> doing very little. >> >> It's important to note that the old controller claims to be a PD >> controller, but it is actually a PI controller-- the output from the >> PD controller was accumulated, which has the effect of numerically >> integrating everything. It is a very strange PI controller, too-- not >> formulated in any of the "normal" ways that control systems are built. >> >> Looking at the plots, there's a few different things to consider/look >> at. The first is how quickly the controller arrests a positive trend >> after a step. With default tuning, this is about 75 seconds. Next, >> is how well the value converges to the set point-- this is relatively >> quick in both the step and impulse analyses. Finally, the amount of >> negative-going overshoot-- how much it writes "past" the setpoint is >> important. For an impulse, the current tuning overshoots about 10%-- >> if the system is at the target, and you dirty 100MB of the cache, it >> will write back about 110MB. >> >> The existing system writes **much further** past the setpoint because >> it is only able to start really reducing the write rate when the >> target amount of dirty data is reached. >> > > Hi Mike, > > Thank you for the informative reply. I add this patch to my for-test > patch pool. My submit for 4.14 is done, I hope we can try best to make > it in 4.15. > > Coly Li > >> >> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Coly Li <i@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>> On 2017/9/7 上午9:54, Michael Lyle wrote: >>>> Hey everyone--- >>>> >>>> I'd appreciate any feedback you all can lend on this changeset. I >>>> know it's a bit of an awkward time with the opening of the merge >>>> window to have a new functional change show up. I also would >>>> appreciate any comments on process / how to go about submitting work, >>>> as I have not been active in the Linux kernel community in quite some >>>> time. >>>> >>>> This change makes a pretty substantial difference in the smoothness of >>>> IO rates on my cached VM environment. I see a couple of problems with >>>> further review: I have an incorrect comment about the default p term >>>> value, and there is a small bit of conflict with the patches that have >>>> just gone out. I can fix both of these quickly in a subsequent >>>> revision. >>>> >>>> It's also helpful for intermittent workloads to be able to write at a >>>> somewhat higher rate out to disk. Spending a few percent of disk >>>> bandwidth on flushing dirty data-- to leave room to deal with new >>>> bursts of workload-- is very helpful. >>> >>> Hi Michael, >>> >>> One thing I care about is I/O latency of regular read/write requests. >>> For current PD controller, I observe the writeback rate can decrease >>> very fast to 1 sector/second to give almost all bandwidth to frond end >>> I/O requests. This behavior is good for data base users. >>> >>> For this PI controller, I need to do more testing, and observe how it >>> works and behaves with different work loads. Before I am confident with >>> it for most of workloads I know, I am not able to response you very >>> fast. It will take time. >>> >>> If you may provide more performance data (e.g. requests latency >>> distribution) comparing to current PD controller, that will be very >>> helpful for people to response this patch. For now, I need to understand >>> and test this patch. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Coly Li >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 12:56 AM, Michael Lyle <mlyle@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> bcache uses a control system to attempt to keep the amount of dirty data >>>>> in cache at a user-configured level, while not responding excessively to >>>>> transients and variations in write rate. Previously, the system was a >>>>> PD controller; but the output from it was integrated, turning the >>>>> Proportional term into an Integral term, and turning the Derivative term >>>>> into a crude Proportional term. Performance of the controller has been >>>>> uneven in production, and it has tended to respond slowly, oscillate, >>>>> and overshoot. >>>>> >>>>> This patch set replaces the current control system with an explicit PI >>>>> controller and tuning that should be correct for most hardware. By >>>>> default, it attempts to write at a rate that would retire 1/40th of the >>>>> current excess blocks per second. An integral term in turn works to >>>>> remove steady state errors. >>>>> >>>>> IMO, this yields benefits in simplicity (removing weighted average >>>>> filtering, etc) and system performance. >>>>> >>>>> Another small change is a tunable parameter is introduced to allow the >>>>> user to specify a minimum rate at which dirty blocks are retired. >>>>> Ideally one would set this writeback_rate_minimum to a small percentage >>>>> of disk bandwidth, allowing the dirty data to be slowly cleaned out when >>>>> the system is inactive. The old behavior would try and retire 1 >>>>> sector/second, and the new default is 5 sectors/second. >>>>> >>>>> Signed-off-by: Michael Lyle <mlyle@xxxxxxxx> >>>>> --- >>>>> drivers/md/bcache/bcache.h | 9 +++-- >>>>> drivers/md/bcache/sysfs.c | 19 +++++----- >>>>> drivers/md/bcache/writeback.c | 84 +++++++++++++++++++++++-------------------- >>>>> 3 files changed, 60 insertions(+), 52 deletions(-) >>>>> >>>>> diff --git a/drivers/md/bcache/bcache.h b/drivers/md/bcache/bcache.h >>>>> index dee542fff68e..f1cdf92e7399 100644 >>>>> --- a/drivers/md/bcache/bcache.h >>>>> +++ b/drivers/md/bcache/bcache.h >>>>> @@ -265,9 +265,6 @@ struct bcache_device { >>>>> atomic_t *stripe_sectors_dirty; >>>>> unsigned long *full_dirty_stripes; >>>>> >>>>> - unsigned long sectors_dirty_last; >>>>> - long sectors_dirty_derivative; >>>>> - >>>>> struct bio_set *bio_split; >>>>> >>>>> unsigned data_csum:1; >>>>> @@ -361,12 +358,14 @@ struct cached_dev { >>>>> >>>>> uint64_t writeback_rate_target; >>>>> int64_t writeback_rate_proportional; >>>>> - int64_t writeback_rate_derivative; >>>>> + int64_t writeback_rate_integral; >>>>> + int64_t writeback_rate_integral_scaled; >>>>> int64_t writeback_rate_change; >>>>> >>>>> unsigned writeback_rate_update_seconds; >>>>> - unsigned writeback_rate_d_term; >>>>> + unsigned writeback_rate_i_term_inverse; >>>>> unsigned writeback_rate_p_term_inverse; >>>>> + unsigned writeback_rate_minimum; >>>>> }; >>>>> >>>>> enum alloc_reserve { >>>>> diff --git a/drivers/md/bcache/sysfs.c b/drivers/md/bcache/sysfs.c >>>>> index f90f13616980..66a716d5f111 100644 >>>>> --- a/drivers/md/bcache/sysfs.c >>>>> +++ b/drivers/md/bcache/sysfs.c >>>>> @@ -81,8 +81,9 @@ rw_attribute(writeback_delay); >>>>> rw_attribute(writeback_rate); >>>>> >>>>> rw_attribute(writeback_rate_update_seconds); >>>>> -rw_attribute(writeback_rate_d_term); >>>>> +rw_attribute(writeback_rate_i_term_inverse); >>>>> rw_attribute(writeback_rate_p_term_inverse); >>>>> +rw_attribute(writeback_rate_minimum); >>>>> read_attribute(writeback_rate_debug); >>>>> >>>>> read_attribute(stripe_size); >>>>> @@ -130,15 +131,16 @@ SHOW(__bch_cached_dev) >>>>> sysfs_hprint(writeback_rate, dc->writeback_rate.rate << 9); >>>>> >>>>> var_print(writeback_rate_update_seconds); >>>>> - var_print(writeback_rate_d_term); >>>>> + var_print(writeback_rate_i_term_inverse); >>>>> var_print(writeback_rate_p_term_inverse); >>>>> + var_print(writeback_rate_minimum); >>>>> >>>>> if (attr == &sysfs_writeback_rate_debug) { >>>>> char rate[20]; >>>>> char dirty[20]; >>>>> char target[20]; >>>>> char proportional[20]; >>>>> - char derivative[20]; >>>>> + char integral[20]; >>>>> char change[20]; >>>>> s64 next_io; >>>>> >>>>> @@ -146,7 +148,7 @@ SHOW(__bch_cached_dev) >>>>> bch_hprint(dirty, bcache_dev_sectors_dirty(&dc->disk) << 9); >>>>> bch_hprint(target, dc->writeback_rate_target << 9); >>>>> bch_hprint(proportional,dc->writeback_rate_proportional << 9); >>>>> - bch_hprint(derivative, dc->writeback_rate_derivative << 9); >>>>> + bch_hprint(integral, dc->writeback_rate_integral_scaled << 9); >>>>> bch_hprint(change, dc->writeback_rate_change << 9); >>>>> >>>>> next_io = div64_s64(dc->writeback_rate.next - local_clock(), >>>>> @@ -157,11 +159,11 @@ SHOW(__bch_cached_dev) >>>>> "dirty:\t\t%s\n" >>>>> "target:\t\t%s\n" >>>>> "proportional:\t%s\n" >>>>> - "derivative:\t%s\n" >>>>> + "integral:\t%s\n" >>>>> "change:\t\t%s/sec\n" >>>>> "next io:\t%llims\n", >>>>> rate, dirty, target, proportional, >>>>> - derivative, change, next_io); >>>>> + integral, change, next_io); >>>>> } >>>>> >>>>> sysfs_hprint(dirty_data, >>>>> @@ -213,7 +215,7 @@ STORE(__cached_dev) >>>>> dc->writeback_rate.rate, 1, INT_MAX); >>>>> >>>>> d_strtoul_nonzero(writeback_rate_update_seconds); >>>>> - d_strtoul(writeback_rate_d_term); >>>>> + d_strtoul(writeback_rate_i_term_inverse); >>>>> d_strtoul_nonzero(writeback_rate_p_term_inverse); >>>>> >>>>> d_strtoi_h(sequential_cutoff); >>>>> @@ -319,8 +321,9 @@ static struct attribute *bch_cached_dev_files[] = { >>>>> &sysfs_writeback_percent, >>>>> &sysfs_writeback_rate, >>>>> &sysfs_writeback_rate_update_seconds, >>>>> - &sysfs_writeback_rate_d_term, >>>>> + &sysfs_writeback_rate_i_term_inverse, >>>>> &sysfs_writeback_rate_p_term_inverse, >>>>> + &sysfs_writeback_rate_minimum, >>>>> &sysfs_writeback_rate_debug, >>>>> &sysfs_dirty_data, >>>>> &sysfs_stripe_size, >>>>> diff --git a/drivers/md/bcache/writeback.c b/drivers/md/bcache/writeback.c >>>>> index 42c66e76f05e..76e71e8ef356 100644 >>>>> --- a/drivers/md/bcache/writeback.c >>>>> +++ b/drivers/md/bcache/writeback.c >>>>> @@ -24,48 +24,55 @@ static void __update_writeback_rate(struct cached_dev *dc) >>>>> uint64_t cache_sectors = c->nbuckets * c->sb.bucket_size; >>>>> uint64_t cache_dirty_target = >>>>> div_u64(cache_sectors * dc->writeback_percent, 100); >>>>> - >>>>> int64_t target = div64_u64(cache_dirty_target * bdev_sectors(dc->bdev), >>>>> c->cached_dev_sectors); >>>>> >>>>> - /* PD controller */ >>>>> - >>>>> + /* PI controller: >>>>> + * Figures out the amount that should be written per second. >>>>> + * >>>>> + * First, the error (number of sectors that are dirty beyond our >>>>> + * target) is calculated. The error is accumulated (numerically >>>>> + * integrated). >>>>> + * >>>>> + * Then, the proportional value and integral value are scaled >>>>> + * based on configured values. These are stored as inverses to >>>>> + * avoid fixed point math and to make configuration easy-- e.g. >>>>> + * the default value of 100 for writeback_rate_p_term_inverse >>>>> + * attempts to write at a rate that would retire all the dirty >>>>> + * blocks in 100 seconds. >>>>> + */ >>>>> int64_t dirty = bcache_dev_sectors_dirty(&dc->disk); >>>>> - int64_t derivative = dirty - dc->disk.sectors_dirty_last; >>>>> - int64_t proportional = dirty - target; >>>>> - int64_t change; >>>>> - >>>>> - dc->disk.sectors_dirty_last = dirty; >>>>> - >>>>> - /* Scale to sectors per second */ >>>>> - >>>>> - proportional *= dc->writeback_rate_update_seconds; >>>>> - proportional = div_s64(proportional, dc->writeback_rate_p_term_inverse); >>>>> - >>>>> - derivative = div_s64(derivative, dc->writeback_rate_update_seconds); >>>>> - >>>>> - derivative = ewma_add(dc->disk.sectors_dirty_derivative, derivative, >>>>> - (dc->writeback_rate_d_term / >>>>> - dc->writeback_rate_update_seconds) ?: 1, 0); >>>>> - >>>>> - derivative *= dc->writeback_rate_d_term; >>>>> - derivative = div_s64(derivative, dc->writeback_rate_p_term_inverse); >>>>> - >>>>> - change = proportional + derivative; >>>>> + int64_t error = dirty - target; >>>>> + int64_t proportional_scaled = >>>>> + div_s64(error, dc->writeback_rate_p_term_inverse); >>>>> + int64_t integral_scaled, new_rate; >>>>> + >>>>> + if ((error < 0 && dc->writeback_rate_integral > 0) || >>>>> + (error > 0 && time_before64(local_clock(), >>>>> + dc->writeback_rate.next + NSEC_PER_MSEC))) { >>>>> + /* Only decrease the integral term if it's more than >>>>> + * zero. Only increase the integral term if the device >>>>> + * is keeping up. (Don't wind up the integral >>>>> + * ineffectively in either case). >>>>> + * >>>>> + * It's necessary to scale this by >>>>> + * writeback_rate_update_seconds to keep the integral >>>>> + * term dimensioned properly. >>>>> + */ >>>>> + dc->writeback_rate_integral += error * >>>>> + dc->writeback_rate_update_seconds; >>>>> + } >>>>> >>>>> - /* Don't increase writeback rate if the device isn't keeping up */ >>>>> - if (change > 0 && >>>>> - time_after64(local_clock(), >>>>> - dc->writeback_rate.next + NSEC_PER_MSEC)) >>>>> - change = 0; >>>>> + integral_scaled = div_s64(dc->writeback_rate_integral, >>>>> + dc->writeback_rate_i_term_inverse); >>>>> >>>>> - dc->writeback_rate.rate = >>>>> - clamp_t(int64_t, (int64_t) dc->writeback_rate.rate + change, >>>>> - 1, NSEC_PER_MSEC); >>>>> + new_rate = clamp_t(int64_t, (proportional_scaled + integral_scaled), >>>>> + dc->writeback_rate_minimum, NSEC_PER_MSEC); >>>>> >>>>> - dc->writeback_rate_proportional = proportional; >>>>> - dc->writeback_rate_derivative = derivative; >>>>> - dc->writeback_rate_change = change; >>>>> + dc->writeback_rate_proportional = proportional_scaled; >>>>> + dc->writeback_rate_integral_scaled = integral_scaled; >>>>> + dc->writeback_rate_change = new_rate - dc->writeback_rate.rate; >>>>> + dc->writeback_rate.rate = new_rate; >>>>> dc->writeback_rate_target = target; >>>>> } >>>>> >>>>> @@ -491,8 +498,6 @@ void bch_sectors_dirty_init(struct cached_dev *dc) >>>>> >>>>> bch_btree_map_keys(&op.op, dc->disk.c, &KEY(op.inode, 0, 0), >>>>> sectors_dirty_init_fn, 0); >>>>> - >>>>> - dc->disk.sectors_dirty_last = bcache_dev_sectors_dirty(&dc->disk); >>>>> } >>>>> >>>>> void bch_cached_dev_writeback_init(struct cached_dev *dc) >>>>> @@ -506,10 +511,11 @@ void bch_cached_dev_writeback_init(struct cached_dev *dc) >>>>> dc->writeback_percent = 10; >>>>> dc->writeback_delay = 30; >>>>> dc->writeback_rate.rate = 1024; >>>>> + dc->writeback_rate_minimum = 5; >>>>> >>>>> dc->writeback_rate_update_seconds = 5; >>>>> - dc->writeback_rate_d_term = 30; >>>>> - dc->writeback_rate_p_term_inverse = 6000; >>>>> + dc->writeback_rate_p_term_inverse = 40; >>>>> + dc->writeback_rate_i_term_inverse = 10000; >>>>> >>>>> INIT_DELAYED_WORK(&dc->writeback_rate_update, update_writeback_rate); >>>>> } >>>>> -- >>>>> 2.11.0 >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-bcache" in >>>> the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >>>> >>> -- >>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-bcache" in >>> the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-bcache" in >> the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >> > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-bcache" in > the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-bcache" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html