Re: bcachefs: can bcachefs export block devices?

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On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 02:47:29PM -0700, Eric Wheeler wrote:
> 
> I have a few bcachefs questions that pertain to its use with block 
> devices.  
> 
> Does bcachefs's implementation reuse and update the existing 
> bcache code such that the block device driver inherits the bcachefs 
> improvements?  I understand the cache superblock changed, maybe the cached 
> dev super too.

Yes, all of the existing functionality is still there (though some of it's
broken at the moment because I haven't been running those tests; if you're
interested in using bcache-dev for the old style caching (there are performance
and robustness improvements) it wouldn't take me long to get it working again).

> Can bcachefs provide /dev/bcacheN devices without loop.ko?  
> 
> If so, are these simply filesystem objects (files)?

No, at least not currently - the "export a block device" code and the filesystem
code are effectively thin wrappers around the core bcache IO path (bch_read()
and bch_write()) - but the two different interfaces don't have anything to do
with each other.

The way it works is the first 4096 inode numbers are owned by the block device
interface - inodes in that range are for either cached devices or thin
provisioned volumes. The filesystem code owns inode numbers >= 4096.

So while blockdev volumes/cached data do have inodes, they're not reachable via
the filesystem because there will never be dirents that point to them (also,
they use a different inode type with extra fields for the UUID/label).

However - there isn't anything preventing us from writing a bit of new code and
hooking it up to an ioctl or sysfs interface to say "look up this path and
create a block device for that file". The only remotely tricky bit would be
pagecache cache coherency, but I think you get the new block device to just use
the same address_space (pagecache cache for an inode) as the filesystem inode.

So, probably doable in ~100 lines of code or so.
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