Re: Netjack questions

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On Mon, 12 Jan 2015, Russell Hanaghan wrote:

At work I've been using zita-njbridge with the default 10 ms buffering
over a wireless LAN. I don't think this can be repeated easily (I'm
working at Huawei Research so networks can be assumed to be performing
well). OTOH using a Cat6 cable and decent NICs this should just work.
Latency may still be too high for in-ear monitoring.

I understand. I'm not too worried about the network side of stuff. I've a variety of gear and have a long background associated to network infrastructure. Is < 10ms possible in a stable fashion using the netjack and your zita bridge? Even half that might be ok. It's a small stAge and room is mostly brick (from 1886!!) with wood floor n ceiling. Some xtra minor 'slap back' might be tolerable given difficulty hearing on stage next to a bloody drum kit & guitar amps!

I would suggest zita bridge would be better for these reasons:

- jackd with a -net backend will crash/exit if the network connection fails even temporarily. zita bridge keeps reconnecting at both ends and jackd keeps running anyway.

- you need the audio interface at both ends anyway and would need to run either alsa-in/out or zita-a2j/j2a at one end at least. Using zita-netbraidge already includes that.

Netjack if compiled with opus, might handle wireless a bit better if audio quality can suffer somewhat. Opus minimum latency is 5ms.

Latency... by the time I get 30 feet away from the band, my notes sound slow to me. 30 feet away means from my amp as well, so effectively 60 feet. Having my amp right beside me might make my playing sound better to me, but worse to the rest of the band :) The average pipe organ has longer distances and the player can deal with that... even most stages are wider. SO try and see. The general rule seems to be audio IF latency times three for the network. So USB IFs might be too slow (actually I find Intel HDA is often worse).

I think it would be a great test though. Try the wireless first. There may be some dropouts and other oddness, but so long as there are not loud pops that hurt the ear, it may be ok for monitoring. Opus hides dropouts as best it can.

--
Len Ovens
www.ovenwerks.net

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