On Thursday 28 August 2014 23:01:10 Sam Mulvey did opine And Gene did reply: > On 08/28/2014 07:45 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> > I thought we were talking about the future here! The 80s wants its > >> > property back!! > >> > > >> > Also Hi8 is an analogue format so everything in the post is plain > >> > bollocks! Maybe you meant Digital8?? Still 15 years old and any > >> > tape format is pretty much dead and definitely not the future! > > > > Not this one, it uses metal tape in the same casette as a Hi-8 would > > use, but about a tenner more expensive. and is "digital Hi-8" > > format. > > > > Reasonably sharp too at 720p. Go look it up, its a Sony HandyCam > > DCR- TRV460 NTSC. and about 11 years old IIRC. And one of the first > > with lithium batteries. I can't quickly find the charger, but after > > laying for at least 2 years, it still fires right up. > > > > I have shot several weddings with it, processed it down to fit on a > > dvd using kino and sold the disks several times now. Many many > > times sharper than a vhs deck. > > ..and I think there's a notable point here in the ability to read and > write to a device on the chain in realtime is a question of bandwidth > regardless of what the media is. > > -Sam I will not argue that point Sam. But I will note that firewire Just Works in real time. I have usb2.0 stuff both here, a veritable weeping willow ith everything plugged in and out in the shop with cnc machinery, using a usb2.0 camera for machine vision. And while lsusb -vv says its recognized and running as a usb2.0 camera, and it is the only device on that port, its nearly worthless because the frame rate for a sustained image on the computer is about 2 to 3 frames a second. Great picture, but you move the machine 3 thousandths of an inch, then move your eyes from the keyboard back to the monitor so you can check the crosshair registration on the work target and still have to wait for the video to catch up. USB2.0 has more than enough bandwidth to handle a 60 fps interlaced pix, according to the specs. I have never ever seen evidence of it. Nother furinstance, my printer, a Brother HL-3170-CDW color laser, is hooked up both ways, a std usb cable in one port, and a 100mbit ethernet cable from my cheap switch to the RJ45 on it. The pages per minute nearly doubles if I feed it thru the ethernet port. Unless its running in duplex mode. Thats a huge time equalizer... And I found the charger cable, it was laying in plain sight, on the floor 2 feet from my feet. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user