Re: MIDI hardware with Linux

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On 21 April 2014 at 16:35, rob <rob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On 21/04/14 16:09, Kevin Cosgrove wrote:
> >
> > On 21 April 2014 at 2:30, <gnome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> ---- Kevin Cosgrove <kevinc@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 20 April 2014 at 7:54, "F. Silvain" <silvain@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Kevin Cosgrove, Apr 20 2014:
> >>>> ...
> >>>>> I'm trying to figure out how to interconnect the *MIDI* of the following:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - M-Audio Delta 1010 hardware MIDI ports
> >>>>> - Mackie Control Universal hardware MIDI ports
> >>>>> - Alesis QS8 hardware synth
> >>>>> - a2jmidid software MIDI interface
> >>>>> - Ardour jack-MIDI ports
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What can you folks advise?
> >>>> Hey Kevin,
> >>>> I've got the same card and I use MIDI everytime I work with my system.
> >>>> Why do you use a2jmidid, when JACK has its own option?
> >>>> jackd ... -Xseq
> >>>> Valid for JACK1 and JACK2 (JACKmp).
> >>>
> >>> The Mackie above is a control surface.  I want to use it with Ardour.
> >>> Here are some instructions for that.  The 1st link references the
> >>> 2nd, which references the 3rd.
> >>>
> >>> http://manual.ardour.org/using-control-surfaces/devices-using-mackielogic-control-protocol/
> >>>
> >>> http://manual.ardour.org/using-control-surfaces/devices-using-mackielogic-control-protocol/mackie-control-setup-on-linux/
> >>>
> >>> http://manual.ardour.org/setting-up-your-system/setting-up-midi/midi-on-linux/
> >>>
> >>> That last link says to "uncheck the Misc > Enable ALSA Sequencer support"
> >>> which is the same thing as avoiding "-Xseq".  After going through that,
> >>> and going with "a2jmidid -e" then my Behringer BCF2000 control surface
> >>> worked just fine.
> >>>
> >>> But, the Mackie has no USB port, only MIDI ports, and I have not been
> >>> able to get anything Linux to talk to it.
> >>
> >> Did you try a USB<>MIDI connector?
> >
> > Not yet.  I don't own one.  If a USB<>MIDI device is the correct
> > way to get MIDI hardware communication to work, then I'll get
> > such a unit.  But, I don't want to buy one for troubleshooting,
> > if it's not needed.  Is it generally agreed that a USB<>MIDI unit
> > is needed?
> >
> > The last time I did this I used a Soundblaster card which had a
> > game/MIDI port and that worked fine to communicate over MIDI.
> > Now I have a Delta 1010 with MIDI ports.  But, that's the only
> > MIDI connected within my computer.  I haven't been able to
> > get that to work for me.  So far, nobody suggested that this
> > shouldn't work, nor how to get it to work, if it's supposed to
> > work.
> >
> > Thanks...
> >
> > --
> > Kevin
> >
> 
> amidi -l  ?

Dir Device    Name
IO  hw:1,0    M Audio Delta 1010 MIDI
IO  hw:3,0,0  BCF2000 MIDI 1
IO  hw:3,0,1  BCF2000 MIDI 2

This is with my Delta 1010 turned on, but nothing connected to
its MIDI ports.  I also have my BCF2000 on, and MIDI cables
running between it and my Mackie MCU.  BCF MIDI out/thru to MCU
in, and BCF in to MCU out.  In this configuration the MCU can
control Ardour.  But, Ardour can not control the MCU.

This is running behind ardour

10319 ?        SLsl   0:04 /bin/jackd -dalsa -r48000 -p1024 -n2 -D -Chw:1 -Phw:1
10333 pts/5    SLl    0:02 a2jmidid -e


At this point I'm thinking

- MIDI ports on the Delta 1010 don't work as I would expect.
  Brent also said this about his 1010.
- The BCF2000 functions as a unidirectional MIDI host, like
  a partial USB<>MIDI translator.
- A real USB<>MIDI translator, e.g. Midisport NxN should help.


I'll report back after my next steps.

Thanks....


--
Kevin


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