On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Bill Gribble <grib@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, 2013-10-23 at 12:09 +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:That last was a big goal of mine when I started work on MFP [1].
> In my jackass opinion, Ardour needs Ingen bundled, or maybe a similar
> built-in feature. (And some people would still want to see PD-like
> system inside it, much like Max4Live).
Something like PD, but less multimedia, more quantitative, and can be
inserted as a plugin anywhere that loads plugins. Sort of a swiss-army
knife for audio engineers/musicians/mad scientists who need to put
together a custom bit of signal generation, processing, analysis,
midi/osc mangling, etc.
Unfortunately :) I got a job about 6 months ago and work on MFP has been
at a near-standstill since my LAC presentation. But I have found some
time lately to work on a first pass at running MFP as a LV2 plugin,
which is a key missing piece of technology to enable the "max4live" type
workflow. I'm hopeful I can have a3 loading an editable, 2x2 patch
(with a fixed set of LV2 controls, the patch editor being
out-of-process) in the next couple of weeks.
There is a proof of concept LV2 plugin floating around that is based on libpd that can run PD patches. There is also Radium, which now has a fork of libpd built in and has PD patching integrated into the workflow of the sequencer. CLAM also has had export to LV2 features for a while, though I don't know what state it is given the changes to the LV2 stack since the initial feature was added. I'd like to see Dave's work with Ingen running as an LV2 be released, but since Ingen itself has yet to see a release that might be a while off.
All up, I think we are spoiled for choices if we are prepared to live with the problems of being early adopters. Personally I'd like to see more work on bringing just one of these tools to maturity, rather than a further proliferation of itch-scratchers that never quite get the job done. Not that my opinion matters for much - ultimately the work has to be done by people more competent at programming than myself.
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