Re: eyes verses ears

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Hi Bob,
That's not quite the direction I was going, but very interesting
nonetheless. I know people enjoy watching me perform--I play guitar
and sing, and am a looper/percussionist as well.
I am familiar with the concept of the "solo" face for guitarists. :-)
I would imagine that watching a person perform live must be just as
facinating as the music. People always comment on the visual aspects
of a musical performance, and sometimes I think it's meaningless, and
other times I don't, because it quite obviously  is part of the
experience for most every one else.

Rusty


On 7/4/13, Bob van der Poel <bob@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Interesting points ... especially today, since I just got "elected" to
> conduct a new concert band we're setting up here (for beginners ...
> should be interesting). But, having done a bit of study about the role
> of a conductor it really does bring the "audio only" question to the
> forefront. And I'd not talking about the highly visible music we see
> at rock concerts, etc.
>
> As an audience member I find myself playing lots of attention to the
> conductor as well as the physical movements of players: the tension in
> the face of a cello player, the stance of a trumpeter, etc.
>
> So, for live music ... yeah, the visual becomes quite important. But,
> when we translate this to a recording, the visual is all but lost.
> Even in a video recording, I get very little sense of the visual.
> Maybe I need a much bigger screen?
>
> I have decent vision, so I have no idea how this translates to a blind
> person. I can only assume that other senses assume the role of sight?
>
> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Rusty Perez <rustys.lists@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>> Let me start out by saying that I don't  intend for this to be a
>> "which is better" discussion. This is more of a "why?" discussion,
>> and, "what can you do with it which can't be done otherwise?"
>> discussion.
>>
>>  In reviewing the list of applications  Gabbe used on the new album,
>> there is  mention  of an application used to visualize the  mix. I got
>> to wondering.
>> A mix is purely an auditory medium, right? So, (and I'll play dumb
>> here) why do we need to visualize a mix?
>> Now, part of this is purely selfish, since I happen to be blind, and
>> so these visualization tools are not available to me. But, though I
>> understand the advantages of an onscreen mixer, or a mouse driven
>> interface, since, theoretically everything conveyed in an audible mix
>> is received by the ears, shouldn't it be enough to experience it,
>> perceive it, analyze it audibly?
>>
>> Now, of course, I understand that deficiencies in speakers or
>> headphones, audio volume limitations, maybe even hearing limitations
>> are likely some reasons for using a visual method for analyzing an
>> audio medium, but are there others?
>>
>> I also understand the idea that, if a tool is available, then it
>> should, be used, but is there something which can be achieved, in the
>> audio spectrum, which can only be achieved via the visual medium?
>>
>> Just some thoughts.
>> Rusty
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