Re: Linux Audio podcast, episode001

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On 07/02/2013 02:55 PM, Louigi Verona wrote:
... I believe a different approach would be great - basically, a modular all-in-one system, meaning modules that are designed to speak to each other.

How realistic is that to make? Don't know.

Well, PyDAW seems to fit the bill. Of course, everyone hates the developer so there's no enlightened discussion possible here. (It would not be amiss to suggest that he made himself less than likeable). AFAIK I'm the only one on this list who looked beyond the personality to actually use the man's software. And it is exactly what you describe, a closed-modular system of audio/MIDI recording and editing tools, with effects and instruments prepackaged and immediately available for use. (His synths are really nice, btw). Jeff has continued to develop the program and I look forward to testing his latest additions.

Yes, he despises JACK and I'm pretty sure he doesn't feel all that kindly towards ALSA. So what ? Are these things sacred cows, never to be disturbed from their current positions ? And if he's offensive, maybe he takes it far more seriously than we think, and maybe just maybe he has thought through to a very different Tao of Linux audio. In another example, the OSS/Linux guys think differently about it, and they have a viable product.

When I asked "What sucks about Linux audio ?" I got a lot of replies that support the contention that all is NOT well in the Linux audio world. At the same time it occurred to me that that's just how it is here, and if you (the impersonal "you", not you specifically, Louigi) want to influence the way things go - in the same way that a specific group of people determined the current path beginning in the late 1990s - then you'd best get up and start moving, because there's talking and walking. Talk's cheap. And the required walking skills are not inconsiderable.

Developers of Win/Mac music software listen to users because they pay them for a product. Can't escape the economics of the thing, it matters whether you like it or not. If I want to keep my customer base then I attend to their needs, else I don't get paid, and I might as well pass the hat at Louigi Verona gigs. So we can keep talking or we can start paying. Paul Davis has developed Ardour thanks to contributions. I highly doubt it would have reached its current level without the money coming in. Rui has a good day gig, and he's taken his own sweet time to develop QTractor. (Is it out of alpha yet, Rui ? :) Not to speak for them, but I suggest that both of these gentlemen react positively to cash injections.

OTOH I think things are likely to be just swell for people like myself. My use cases are not so machine-centric, and I don't need the standard tools for EDM. Selfishly speaking, things are looking great from my POV. But if I have a concern for the continued development of Linux audio software then I must consider the needs of my colleagues who do require those other tools. Their immediate concerns may not matter to me, but their longer-term involvement is critically determined by the availability of their needed tools. Too much stasis, and sooner or later even Louigi is going back to Windows. And I'd rather not lose colleagues with his capabilities.

Rant over. Peace out.

dp

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