Re: Changed: Copyright laws and such

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On Wednesday 13 February 2013 10:40:30 Paul Davis wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:29 AM, drew Roberts <zotz@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > One would presumably not release the work to the public until one had
> > gotten a
> > fair return on one's labour.
>
> that implies only a private audience (and one contract-bound to not "leak"
> the work) until one reached whatever one deemed a fair return.

Not at all, perhaps we are going to have to go to something like kickstarter / 
indiegogo for funding to initial release for some.

Perhaps things will work just fine as they seem to in the fashion industry.
>
> which in turn implies the notion that to get a larger return requires a
> public release that (in what I perceive as your worldview) in turn implies
> abandoment of any ability to restrict access to or use of one's work (even
> though one might still get paid something for it).

In actuality, one already gives up this ability as can be seen from the 
constant cries of "piracy" killing the industry. For the calls for three 
strikes and your off the net laws where strikes are accusations and not 
convictions. But where you can be sure it is only going to happen when the 
powerful accuse the weak, never when the weak accuse the powerful.
>
> effectively, you're arguing for "if you don't have a rich patron and you
> expect the public to pay for your work, you must give up any control over
> your work, in the hope that the public will pay you for it anyway".

Please, this is really not the case. Although it is the fear.
>
> given that most rich patrons want/need public distribution of the work you
> do for them (think hollywood), i have a hard time understanding how this is
> not tantamount to saying "if you want to get paid anything for your work,
> you must give up all control over it".

Why should it be impossible for a movie to earn back its real costs in the 
opening weekend?

Besides, if the only way for the current model to continue is to destroy 
freedom and democracy, I know whcih I want to keep.

all the best,

drew
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