On 02/12/2013 01:16 PM, Louigi Verona wrote: > > Right. Thing is - value has nothing to do with property rights. > Property rights appear as soon as there is rivalrousness. > > To supply an example. Let's say you took someone's piece of marble and > created a statue out of it. Is it now your statue, > because you've added "value" to it? > > Creation in itself does not give you any property rights. In fact, > there is no creation, there is always only changing matter > according to laws of physics. The flaw in your example is "you TOOK someone's piece of marble." You may have added value to the marble FOR THE OWNER, if he likes your statue. Or, you may have REDUCED it's value to the owner, if he intended to use the marble for a counter top. The point being, that you cannot base "increased value" arguments when you base your premise on STEALING the item in the first place. And the rivalrousness statement goes along with Kinsella's concept that there can be no value in something unless there is a scarcity of that item. In other words, he thinks it would be fine for others to demand that YOU do one hour of work for them a day for free, and that is acceptable until more than 24 people have made that same demand. -- --- My bands, CD projects, music, news, and pictures: http://www.lateralforce.com My blog, with commentary on a variety of things, including audio, mixing, equipment, etc, is at: http://audioandmore.wordpress.com Staat heißt das kälteste aller kalten Ungeheuer. Kalt lügt es auch; und diese Lüge kriecht aus seinem Munde: 'Ich, der Staat, bin das Volk.' - [Friedrich Nietzsche] _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user