On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 2:38 AM, david <gnome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
as has been patiently explained, vestige is a CLEAN ROOM reverse engineered version of VST, that was created by someone who did NOT download the VST SDK, did not USE the VST SDK to develop it, did not obtain anything from steinberg to develop it.
making a parallel with theft is borderline offensive. do you not understand what the term "clean room reverse engineering" means?
now of course, you're free to allege that vestige could not have been or was not developed in "clean room" style, but that is an entirely separate claim.
Using something without agreeing to the terms (licence) under which the provider of that something offers it is theft. "Of course I can steal and use your $50000 software: I never agreed to your license!" "Of course I can steal and use your car: I never agreed that it's yours!"I do realize that I sound pig-headed, but a license is an agreement.
If you didn't sign one, how can you possibly violate the terms?
"3. The Licensee has no permission to sell, licence, give-away and/or
distribute the Licensed Software Developer Kit or parts of it in any
way, on any medium, including the Internet, to any other person,
including sub-licensors of the Licensee or companies where the
Licensee has any involvement. This includes re-working this
specification, or reverse-engineering any products based upon this
specification."
The Licensee, Dave, is someone who has been granted a licence.
as has been patiently explained, vestige is a CLEAN ROOM reverse engineered version of VST, that was created by someone who did NOT download the VST SDK, did not USE the VST SDK to develop it, did not obtain anything from steinberg to develop it.
making a parallel with theft is borderline offensive. do you not understand what the term "clean room reverse engineering" means?
now of course, you're free to allege that vestige could not have been or was not developed in "clean room" style, but that is an entirely separate claim.
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