On 02/06/2013 08:10 AM, cunnilinux himself wrote: > to summarize it all. > > give the users > 1) one WORKING ableton clone > 2) WORKING VST support > & > 3) something like WORKING ardour 3 > — and they will be happily happy even with linux. > even with sloooow and monstrous ubuntu studio. > > the rest is good to have, but not THAT critical. See, here is where expectations/assumptions are what leads to claims of "linux audio sucks." First off, expecting a "clone" of a Windows application is unrealistic for many reasons, and basing an opinion of linux on whether or not that "clone" exists is silly. Why? Mainly because a huge number of people have never used Ableton, have no idea what it does, and have no use for it. I got Ableton as a freebie with some piece of hardware I bought last year. I looked at it once, and promptly uninstalled it. If that was to be considered the pinnacle of "windows audio," I would have concluded that "windows audio sucks." Windows audio DOES suck in many ways, but it has nothing to do with Ableton. I just have zero use for what it does. On Windows, all I use and need is Sonar. Likewise VST support. Sure, it would be nice to have, assuming that some effects you want are available in VST format, but it's not a deal-breaker. The majority of linux audio users would be content with either Qtractor, Ardour 2 plus Rosegarden, or Ardour 3. -- --- My bands, CD projects, music, news, and pictures: http://www.lateralforce.com My blog, with commentary on a variety of things, including audio, mixing, equipment, etc, is at: http://audioandmore.wordpress.com Staat heißt das kälteste aller kalten Ungeheuer. Kalt lügt es auch; und diese Lüge kriecht aus seinem Munde: 'Ich, der Staat, bin das Volk.' - [Friedrich Nietzsche] _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user