2012/11/30 Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > On Fri, 2012-11-30 at 13:52 +0100, Carlos sanchiavedraz wrote: >> We are having a considerable inner reorganization of the project along >> with the Musix 3 development itself. In addition I'm also preparing a >> Musix 3 for portable/touch devices, so there's a lot going on. >> By now the last one was Musix 3 beta 2. >> >> Anyway, we still be keeping and eye on hosts and devices with not much >> horsepower having desktops and environments prepared for them. One of >> the goals of Musix is not to forget the old PCs and devices, not to >> follow the "2 year PCs are dated -> buy a new one" tendency that is >> constantly growing. > > It's strange that a project that claims to be for humanity, computers > for the third world etc. does rebuild Debian packages with i386 > architecture and only does support Intel-based computers with a > 686-class (or newer) CPU. I don't understand this and I don't like it. > > OTOH I do understand that e.g. FreeBSD does drop AC'97 support, but > instead is interested to support the RME HDSPe AIO. It belongs to the > manpower and if we can't pay people to maintain support for old hardware > or to support new hardware, there's nobody to blame. > > I don't have the money to pay somebody to support AC'97 for FreeBSD or > to support the RME HDSPe AIO for Linux and I don't have the time to do > it myself, learning how to program for the kernel is time intensive and > can't be done by reading a howto about audio driver writing. > > So in some cases I agree, the approach "2 year PCs are dated -> buy a > new one" is bad, but I understand that there are limits for maintaining > all hardware. > > FLOSS does include "free as in beer", that's good, but the disadvantage > is, that there's not enough money to care about everything. > > Regards, > Ralf > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-audio-user mailing list > Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user Don't know if I understand correctly you criticism, but it seems to me unfair at least. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't like to write a lot (you know that in lists it sometimes tends to start some flame wars and endless mail thread), but I'll try to nicely make clear some points, just in case. Musix team is just a few ordinary people (it began with just one doing it on his own) that do what they can, really, with scarce spare time, resources, and no money apart from some donations. Just people learning as they go to be able to do some scripting, some compiling, some remastering of distro and put some more time to produce and organize contents about audio in FLOSS world. In addition we translate a lot to spanish, portuguese and other languages to make it easy for anyone. We are very far to be (and far of wanting to be) a complete replica of Debian for musicians, simply because of lack of resources (people, money, infrastructure). We just put a tier of wizards, personalized desktops and environments, tweak configurations for RT (nowadays is not needed much as some years ago), compile recent versions of some audio software, etc. on top of Debian itself with the goal to be easier for musicians and people in general to have a complete RT easy audio/multimedia system out-of-the-box. So everything that Debian has, Musix has (included all architectures). Given that, it's true that some Musix added packages, as kernel ones, are not available for all architectures just because what I've just mentioned about resources. Yes that's not great, we should have a hall full of PCs with each one of the possibilities, but we don't, so it's our two cents at least. About humanity and computers of the third world, well, we surely focus on that Musix is and has to be 100% FLOSS, but in any point we want to be the savors of the world - again - just put our two cents about Freedom and Humanity. Although there's already some public organizations on many countries that have Musix installed, most of all on conservatories and schools of music. But, in any case, and because Musix users so they ask for, we care about to be as universal as possible having CDs along with DVDs for machines without DVD reader or USB boot capabilities; not focusing exclusively on bloated eye candy desktops but having as well lighter ones to save resources for audio processing and make room to older machines... But that is not we want to be - or can be - an OLPC-like project. Please, Ralf, these words are just to clarify that Musix is not Ubuntu, Fedora or Debian (that would be great!); just an effort and a wish to contribute to audio floss community with however little or much we can for all that we receive. Regards and beers. -- Carlos sanchiavedraz * Musix GNU+Linux http://www.musix.es _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user
