Re: debian wheezy vs pulseaudio vs jackdbus

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On 10/29/2012 06:51 PM, Patrick Shirkey wrote:

On Tue, October 30, 2012 3:42 pm, david wrote:
On 10/29/2012 02:12 PM, Patrick Shirkey wrote:

On Tue, October 30, 2012 10:11 am, Len Ovens wrote:

On Mon, October 29, 2012 2:45 pm, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
On Tue, October 30, 2012 8:35 am, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
Hi,

Does anyone know whats going on with pulseaudio-module-jackdbus in
Debian
Wheezy?

On my system the jackdbus module doesn't exist in the repos and the
result
is that pulseaudio doesn't play nice with jack.

I can see that jackd2 was compiled with dbus support so not sure
what's
going on with the missing pulse module.


I can see with pacmd list-modules that module-jackdbus-connect is
loaded
so the module must be compiled into pulse directly.

So any thoughts on why the module is not kicking in?

On ubuntu (which normally uses debian src packages), The module name is
module-jackdbus-detect. I don't think I have seen a module called
module-jackdbus-connect even on the pulse site.
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/Modules#JACK_Connectivity


You got the gist...

Even if jackd comes with dbus support, it can be started without. so
use
ps x or similar to check that the running app is jackdbus and not
jackd.

There is no jackdbus on debian wheezy, just "jackd" or "jackd2".

If you are using qjackctl there is a checkbox under misc "Enable D-Bus
interface" that has to be checked.


That helps which means that debian wheezy has support for pulseaudio,
module-jackdbus-detect and jackd2 by default but there is still an
error:

====
Failed to acquire device name : Audio0 error : Method "RequestRelease"
with signature "i" on interface "org.freedesktop.ReserveDevice1" doesn't
exist
Audio device hw:0 cannot be acquired...
====

What I find completely bizarre is that the top 5 hits on google for this
error have people recommending to disable pulseaudio or use an alternate
method to connect. It seems people have known about this issue for a
while
and been ignoring it or waiting for someone else to figure it out.

Removing PulseAudio works for me!


It seems like a regression to me and it's not helping people who want to
use both pulseaudio and jack together.

For most professionals it's completely unnecessary to remove pulse as jack
can run on a second "pro" soundcard. This issue is only a headache when
the user has only one sound card to work with and given that is the
majority of n00b or amateur users it makes sense for pulse and jack to
work well together.

Well, I'm one of those weird people who see *no need whatever* for PulseAudio. Like Linux needs Yet Another Sound Server to confuse people and dilute developer resources ...

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