Hi Hartmut! On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Hartmut Noack <zettberlin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Thanks for the informative text Dan! You're (and Ralf) welcome! > > Am 10.09.2012 21:47, schrieb Dan MacDonald: > >> >> the full-on icon overload of Rosegarden. > > While I agree that in terms of aesthetics RG is not the crown of > creation I still think, that it is better to have a lot of icons to > handle a lot of functionality than to be confronted with a good-looking > concept of a UI-designer who actually believes, he/she knows what I want > to do and how in any "reasonable" scenario ;-) In most scenarios I only want to see icons for the most commonly used stuff. I'm normally happy if I can bind keys to the stuff I use - in fact thats often better than an icon for me. Ideally apps should be able to be fully used just with the mouse or just with the keyboard and have a customisable GUI to resolve any such arguments but apps that fulfil all 3 wishes are rare. I'd say that when I used to use RG I must've only ever used 1/10th of its onscreen icons. Less icons = more workspace. > >> A3 also currently lacks the ability >> to set gradual changes in tempo > > Well, that is not quite correct. Yo can set as many tempo-changes as > needed for gradual changes resolution only limited by BPM-ticks. This > method can be a bit crummy if you want to slide tempo frequently in a > track but it is in fact working OK. The only thing one could miss > regarding tempo in A3 would be some "swing/humanize" automagic I'd say... Of course you can probably get your calculator out and make numerous tempo changes to simulate a gradual change - I realise that but I don't want to do that. Sequencers are supposed to make the job of creating music easier and I don't call that workaround easy. I'm sure Paul or someone will correct me if its no longer the case but last time I checked you could only change tempo on the first beat of a bar under A3 so if thats still the case then you may not even be able to fake a reasonably rapid tempo change well. > > >> >> Enough about MIDI, what about audio? Reading the Ardour forums and >> having spent much time in its irc channel, I know that one of the most >> frequent feature requests is integrated wave editing > > To be frank: I do not understand, why this feature seems to be in so big > need for some Ardour users. The non-destructive editing in A3s regions > easily competes with any wave-editor not only in the Linux-camp. > Export/consolidation-automatisms add a lot of the feel of a destructive > editor too. In a word: I use A3 as my main wave-editor already whenever > I need more than just a fast cut of a fieldrecording. The only editors I > also really use are MHWaveedit (unbeatable lean and stable) and yeah... > well forget... ;-) > >> and I'm sure Rui >> has had more than a few requests for such a feature in qtractor too so >> I'd say one of the biggest selling points of MusE is that it would >> seem to be the only Linux DAW to offer integrated audio editing. > > really? > > To be frank once more: the audiotracks of both Muse and RG are 1995 at > best. And I did not see big progress in that field in both in many > years. Though Robert himself makes great recording of hand-played music > with Muse I still think that the audiotracks in Muse are barely usable. > Try to cut regions and loop them, try to cut and arrange some 12-16 > tracks as it can be easily done in Qtractor and the same as easy and > with even much more extra-powers in Ardour. I never said MusE outclasses Ardour and nor did I say it comes close to providing all the features of Ardour as far as audio is concerned because it certainly does not. MusE seems more mature than A3 as a sequencer though and if I was using external MIDI sound modules I would likely be using MusE now as my Linux sequencer. However, not everyone needs the high-end audio features Ardour offers so if you do more sequencing and only make light use of audio then MusE could be a better choice for such users than Ardour is. We're all free to choose what software we use to record with. I'm very happy we have a choice of Linux DAWs and with a few of them getting seriously good now too. _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user
