Re: zynaddsubfx / yoshimi... beginner's questions

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Am 08.04.2012 09:25, schrieb david:
On 04/07/2012 11:35 AM, Renato wrote:
On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 21:48:42 +0200
"Victor A. Stoichita"<vicsto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi everybody,

I'd like to learn more about how to use zynaddsubfx. I know the basic
setup and I understand the most obvious parameters, but is there
something like a manual or an "advanced" tutorial somewhere?

Hi, this
http://wiki.linuxmusicians.com/doku.php?id=zynaddsubfx_manual
was a good read for me; it gives an overview of zyn/yoshimi's internal
workings and proceeds to explain pretty much every knob.

From my limited understanding there are some *major* improvements
yoshimi brought in performance over zynaddsubfx, and I don't think
there is any reason why you should be using zyn instead of yoshimi.

One reason I switched to using Yoshimi instead of Zyn was because Zyn
would frequently simply hang, unresponsive,

Did not see such hangs for neither Zyn nor Yoshimi. A few years ago Zyn used to crash alltogether from time to time and it *can* cause extreme CPU-load accompanied with lots of xruns. But whenever I saw such problems it was kind of "intentional" -- some patches can become quite demanding in Zynadd. That goes for complex multitimbral pads and the like especially if SUBsynth is strongly involved but also for some combinations of ADSR, White noise and filters as used for percussive sounds. I managed to make a mere snardrum, that made Zynadd raise the CPU-load on a quadcore Intel by approx. 40-50% ;-)

Yoshimi never crashed on me but I did not see a big difference when running demanding patches...


 when running JACK at what I
considered low latencies (8-16ms). (Other folk on the list probably
don't consider that low latency at all.)

Well, but it is ;-) At least 8ms are perfectly OK for every situation I ever have seen or heared of ;-)


Yoshimi didn't have that problem.

I also have the whatsoever "feeling", that Yoshimi runs a bit more stable. But Zynadd does not run bad for me either...


I THINK Yoshimi uses more CPU than Zyn, never checked to measure.

The Yoshimi UI is cleaner than Zyn's, more readable.

There are some improvements to the GUI introduced by Yoshimi indeed. But the GUI of Zynadd is much better than its bad nimbus -- this synth allows do do very complex things with sounds and I think, it would be hard to make the GUI for such a complex, feature-rich application a lot simpler whithout dumbing it down....


I think both of
them would benefit by realizing that the typical graphics UI now is much
higher resolution than the cramped little spaces the UI seems to be
designed for, but that's could be just my opinion.


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