Re: Linux 3.2.0-rt Kernels on Debian Repos!

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On 02/25/2012 08:36 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
Hi Ralf,

I 100% agree with your willing of a free OS for free people.
Thought Debian Stable was this universal OS.
Is it not true ?

Hi Fred :)

this issue doesn't touch Debian stable. It starts with Debian testing
and is continued with Debian derivatives such as Ubuntu and Mint.

It will touch Debian Stable when what's in Sid is turned into the new Stable.

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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:42:31 -1000
From: david<gnome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re:  Linux 3.2.0-rt Kernels on Debian Repos!
To: linux-audio-user<linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:<4F4947B7.6050600@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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On 02/25/2012 02:44 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2012-02-25 at 12:00 +0000,
linux-audio-user-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
what did you suspect here ?
Users are always welcome to give feedback, suggestions, or at least,
become a part of the project. That is what FLOSS is about. FLOSS isn't
about to present you a OS on a silver tablet, FLOSS will always force
you to make it work. It is community based. If you didn't help, the
community get a bit smaller, and a piece of work fail.

what did you think why a developer develop Free Open Software ?
And what did you think why a debian maintainer do what he do ?
Do you believe they do it to suite there ego's ?

I started the translation of Qtractor a month ago and due to issues such
as pulseaudio and the dropped nv driver (and some other issues) I can't
contribute, continue translating, but just fix issues, hence my only
contribution could be to set up machines for users who are willing to
learn, but are unable to learn all things at the same time, for their
first Linux install. At least distros shouldn't do a default install
with 3D effects enabled DEs and than install the nouveau driver by
default if a NVIDIA graphics was detected. A 2D desktop and the vesa
driver would allow beginners to get their first install working OOTB and
to learn how to maintain their own machine. Btw. some distros don't
install bryltty by default. Nowadays only 3D DEs count.

Yah, 3D DE stroke developer egos more. That's why I dropped KDE in favor
of XFCE. If I wanted an OS where I had to by new hardware everytime a
new release came out, I'd have bought Windows.

Hahaha, I dropped GNOME3 on my machine, use Xfce now, but tried to give
KDE4 a chance. A KDE session for Mint Lisa won't start anymore, since I
installed the proprietary driver and Xfce on Mint Lisa comes with mouse
cursors from KDE, the selected mouse cursors for Xfce are ignored.

Ubuntus Studio Oneiric and Arch Linux are running Xfce only. Suse 11.2
and Edubuntu Maverick still run GNOME2.

Around here: 2 machines running aptosid (a pretty successful attempt at making Debian Sid a pretty stable OS to use) with XFCE. 2 machines running older Debians or Debian-derivatives (one uses Gnome 2, one KDE3). 1 netbook running Ubuntu 11.10 with their Unity interface.

Tried KDE4 when it was first coming out, it wasn't usable yet, went back to KDE3. Watched a friend valiantly try to use KDE4 up through KDE4.5, after which he gave up and switched to XFCE (on netbooks) and LXDE (on his desktop machine).

XFCE, LXDE or Fluxbox meet my UI needs.

Of course, you could consider a DAW like Ardour 3 to be a UI for pro audio users, yes?

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David
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