Re: [LAD] gxtuner-1.5 released

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Hi Hermann

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On Friday 09 December 2011 16.30.24 hermann wrote:
> Am Freitag, den 09.12.2011, 15:42 +0100 schrieb Jostein Chr. Andersen:
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> Thanks for your comment, . . .
> but it leads me to the conclusion that you didn't have try gxtuner.

On a guitar with an ordinary nut, the distance between the nut and the 
first fret is in general to big, this situation is better with guitars 
with a zero fret. So if you tune every string (open in EADGBE) with a 
tuner on a guitar without a zero fret, then it will be wrong already on 
the first fret, all the notes on that fret will be slightly to sharp if 
the guitar is intonated correctly on the 12th fret. And most of the other 
notes will be out of tune, som to sharp and other to flat. I'm not aware 
of a tuner that takes this under consideration.

On a guitar with an ordinary nut, the tuning can never be anything else 
than compromises, and to tune open strings with a tuner or using 
harmonics is really terrible because not many chords will sound clean.

I really recommend the links I showed in the previous post, they explains 
it all much better than I do:
  http://www.guyguitars.com/eng/handbook/Tuning/tuning.html
  http://www.sternercapo.se/Compensation/index-Eng.HTM

So this is not about good or bad tuners, it's about physical laws. 
Strange enough, only some very expensive guitars are shipped with for 
example Earvana nuts (some ESPs and some PRS's as far as I know) - 
strange, because Earvana's and SOS' are cheap and makes a big difference.

The best compromised tuning that I know about is the method Paul Guy 
describes here (warning: long link with spaces):
  
  "http://www.guyguitars.com/eng/handbook/Tuning/tuning.html#My favourite 
method"

This method will make the guitar with an ordinary nut sound quite good 
anywhere, but the open strings will never be clean EADGBE, except for the 
high E which is the reference tone when using that method.

Does really gxtuner (or nearly any other tuner) have functions that solve 
this problem on guitars with only the bridge corrected?

I hope I have explained this thing better now, thanks for watching.

Jostein




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