----- Original Message ----- > About 12 years ago, I've been someone who did a hardware-reset, > in order to quit vi (text-editor). > That tool didn't give a hint how to use, nor how to quit it. > Changing that would have been simple and had had no influence on > functionality. > > I think this applies to many applications: > You can do 2/ but still support a new user getting there, > without too much hassle. are you sure? did you write some program? vi is weird, but once you /know/ it, it's easy to use. My very first time with it was going to be like yours but: 1 - I was a computer science student so I had, I don't know how to call that, the correct "state of mind" (or maybe I was young and full of arrogance and that won't be that little piece of stuff that's gonna impress me) 2 - a guy near me told me about "ESC :q" and saved my life. You say it's easy to make vi "user friendly", can you elaborate? I am just curious, don't be offended. I wrote several programs over the last 15 years or so, many involve some user interaction, some are in the audio world (a simple daw, a simple notation program), and I try to think on the best approach to: 1 - make the program useful 2 - write it in such a way that it's easy to change things if the design is bad/unusable/not well thought. And, based on their popularity, I miserably fail in 1 and when I need to change things in there I very often fail at 2 (but that's something no one but me can fix). So let's take this vi (which is one of the most usable program out there, I use it all day long and I enjoy it) and how would you make it "easier"? And really, I insist, I don't mean to offend you. I am sincerely curious, to learn and improve my skills. Regards, Cédric. (by the way, since vi comes after ed, as some kind of improvement of the beast, by analogy I guess a better vi would nowadays be called "eclipse" or something equivalent...) (and that will be it for OT-ness, sorry) _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user