On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 22:27 -1000, david wrote: > Paul Davis wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 5:09 AM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> When searching for a new 'professional' sound card I got the information > >> or misinformation that most cards are firewire devices and firewire > >> should be without issues only for Mac. Even Windows users reported that > >> firewire is tricky. > > > > firewire can have issues on OS X too. i have at least one friend who > > has a fiendishly hard time getting his fireface 800 to "boot" with the > > right sample rate or to change it afterwards, and i've heard similar > > stories about MOTU firewire gear. > > > >> The problem is that with each Linux upgrade X becomes more and more > >> pain. I'm happy that my monitor settings are ok for all installs on my > >> machine, but for all new installs the mouse wheel randomly and very > >> seldom works, usually it don't work. I've got no issues with old Linux > >> installs regarding to X (I still kept one old install). > >> > >> Setting up X is a PITA and using common distros PA was a PITA regarding > >> to my old Envy24 cards, Debian doesn't use PA, that's why I switched. > > > > i find these discussions funny. i used to read that the reason to use > > Ubuntu or Debian was that stuff just worked, especially "new stuff". > > i've been using a different distribution that has a long history, > > regularly gets criticized as not appropriate for the desktop, and i > > just don't have the kinds of issues you're describing. > > Debian works here. Has for many many years. I can't blame Debian for > perfectly supporting the Audiophile 2496 on the desktop machine ... or > the fact that Behringer (manufacturer of the USB audio I use on my > laptop) decided to name its hardware device "default". Figuring out how > to make my setup recognize the USB audio as the default ALSA audio > device took some figuring out because of that ... > > Ubuntu is not Debian. Ubuntu is Debian quirked by a bunch of people who > are (in my opinion) slowly but surely working their way to their own > proprietary Linux derivative. Ubuntu doesn't just work on my boring, > stodgy old bog-standard hardware. Ubuntu usually barfs when trying to > use the Intel i855GM video hardware built into my Toshiba laptop. It > doesn't even get to the point of dealing with the audio hardware. When I > boot an Ubuntu on the laptop, I always have to force X to use the VESA > driver ... > > The last couple of Ubuntu releases have not included RT kernels because > Ubuntu thinks no one needs one. After all, Ubuntu is for desktop Linux > users: those people only use one audio device that does only stereo > output, and they only use it to play MP3s. (Well, Debian still doesn't > provide an RT kernel as standard. They also see no need for one.) > > I think some folk on the list have mentioned that Linux audio use is a > small percentage of Linux users, and pro-audio users are an even tinier > percentage of that, so pro-audio users routinely are ignored as being > too tiny a minority group to pay attention to ... > > I understand that the newest incarnation of OSS solves all the problems > that ALSA has ever had and does it all flawlessly ... yah, being > sarcastic! ;-) > :D _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user
