If you are planning on releasing your work as CCBYSA the it really isn't an issue. They do have a nice service if you want to get your music out into the world.
On May 18, 2011 4:32 AM, <pshirkey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Am 18.05.2011 05:59, schrieb Rob:
>>> On Tuesday 17 May 2011 17:07, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
>>>> On 05/17/2011 10:50 PM, Folderol wrote:
>>>>> One of the issues I see with sites like Soundcloud is that in the fine
>>>>> print they basically claim the right to use your work how they like,
>>>>> for as long as they like.
>>>> SoundCloud allows you to put a license on your tracks. CC licenses are
>>>> legally valid so if SoundCloud would use any CC BY NC SA licensed track
>>>> for commercial purposes they have a problem.
>>>
>>> Most likely, you're agreeing to give them those rights regardless of how
>>> you might be licensing your works for other people's consumption through
>>> their servers. It's a moot point, though, since their terms also
>>> include
>>> these:
>>>
>>> "USER irrevocably waives the right to assert any claim against
>>> SOUNDCLOUD
>>> or any of its respective parents, subsidiaries, affiliates, successors,
>>> assigns, employees, agents, directors, officers or shareholders in
>>> relation
>>> to the Content generated, uploaded, transmitted or otherwise used on
>>> SOUNDCLOUD’s Website or Services, including, but not limited to,
>>> copyright,
>>> trademark, unfair competition, invasion of privacy, breach of contract
>>> or
>>> breach of confidentiality."
>>>
>>> TLDR: Even if we violate this agreement, you agree you can't sue us for
>>> it.
>>> Or anyone we do business with, pretty much.
>>
>> Thanks a lot for that explanations.
>> Very helpfull :-)
>>
>
> On the flip side they would create a lot of bad faith by doing that so
> this is just a protection against litigious elements who would seek to
> bring them down by tying them up in unending court cases. Companies like
> Microsoft, Avid, Oracle, etc...
>
> Soundcloud provide an excellent service otherwise.
>
> I support them and have even paid them money to host my tracks. A whole
> $5, wow!
>
> It would be handy if everyone who used my services gave me $5.
>
>>>
>>> So, no, I don't see myself using Soundcloud for my music.
>>>
>>> Rob
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>> Am 18.05.2011 05:59, schrieb Rob:
>>> On Tuesday 17 May 2011 17:07, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
>>>> On 05/17/2011 10:50 PM, Folderol wrote:
>>>>> One of the issues I see with sites like Soundcloud is that in the fine
>>>>> print they basically claim the right to use your work how they like,
>>>>> for as long as they like.
>>>> SoundCloud allows you to put a license on your tracks. CC licenses are
>>>> legally valid so if SoundCloud would use any CC BY NC SA licensed track
>>>> for commercial purposes they have a problem.
>>>
>>> Most likely, you're agreeing to give them those rights regardless of how
>>> you might be licensing your works for other people's consumption through
>>> their servers. It's a moot point, though, since their terms also
>>> include
>>> these:
>>>
>>> "USER irrevocably waives the right to assert any claim against
>>> SOUNDCLOUD
>>> or any of its respective parents, subsidiaries, affiliates, successors,
>>> assigns, employees, agents, directors, officers or shareholders in
>>> relation
>>> to the Content generated, uploaded, transmitted or otherwise used on
>>> SOUNDCLOUD’s Website or Services, including, but not limited to,
>>> copyright,
>>> trademark, unfair competition, invasion of privacy, breach of contract
>>> or
>>> breach of confidentiality."
>>>
>>> TLDR: Even if we violate this agreement, you agree you can't sue us for
>>> it.
>>> Or anyone we do business with, pretty much.
>>
>> Thanks a lot for that explanations.
>> Very helpfull :-)
>>
>
> On the flip side they would create a lot of bad faith by doing that so
> this is just a protection against litigious elements who would seek to
> bring them down by tying them up in unending court cases. Companies like
> Microsoft, Avid, Oracle, etc...
>
> Soundcloud provide an excellent service otherwise.
>
> I support them and have even paid them money to host my tracks. A whole
> $5, wow!
>
> It would be handy if everyone who used my services gave me $5.
>
>>>
>>> So, no, I don't see myself using Soundcloud for my music.
>>>
>>> Rob
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