Re: Music made with Linux: Pushing Angel 303

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Am 27.02.2011 12:11, schrieb JÃrn Nettingsmeier:
On 02/26/2011 10:53 PM, Rafal Zawadzki wrote:

Routing and mixer + also intuitive usage of plugins on mixer - was very
nice. Unfortunately at this point my ardour started to crash - for now I
don't remember exactly details (it was around 2,5 months ago). I was
using
KXStudio based on Ubuntu Lucid (32 bit) on Dell XPSM1330 (3GB ram),
latest
ardour - 2.8.11 - for that time...

i haven't seen easily reproducible crashes with ardour2 for a while now,
and it has generally been very reliable for me.

I can second that.
A2 works production-stable for me both on a quad-core with MAudio 1024 card or Presonus Firebox under Suse 11.2 with jengelh-RT-kernel and on a Thinkpad T60 with MAudio Mobile pro or built-in HDA under Fedora14/CCRMA -- with the very same 30+ track projects with dozens of plugins including experimental CALF-SVN-Snapshots. With less than 10ms latency.

I suspect problems with the system-setup and/or kernel.

the only area where i
tread very lightly is midi controllers... too many events coming in or
going out, and it can go poof on you. there used to be a few places
where deleting something that had a midi controller assigned to it would
do horrible things.


At some we found, that drums are bit desyncronised in recording and we
would like them to tune a bit. So I started to slice them and we wanted
connect them - we found problem. For 1,5 hour 3 ppl (1 very technical, 1
half technical, 1 non technical) were not able to find an easy / any
way to
activate it.

You mean: automagically slicing, then "quantizing" everything?

I seldom do stuff like that. Remember, that all the other instruments in the band have played with the drummer as you have recorded the material. Repairing one or 2 glitches in timing may be done with technology-tricks but if really the complete drum-track is off, would it not be considerable to re-record? At the other hand: if the drums should be "desynchronized" alltogether, they should be in time internally. so you would not need to slice, just move the complete regions.

Anyway: the band has actually *played* the songs like this. Within 1.5 h it should be possible to make a better recording?

Problem supposed to be easy - create new drum track based on
sliced samples - alliging / snapping them,.

there are different grid snapping modes. there's also a global lock mode
which prevents region moving altogether. i'm pretty sure this particular
problem was based on a misunderstanding of how ardour works, rather than
a bug.

Today I opened ardour, read small sample, set snapping to region ends and
magnetic - and it did work. No clue - maybe problem was realet with
"weight
of project" and that everything working slow? (2,5 hours of recorind
for 5
channels - ardour on my not too fast laptop was pretty). For now I don't
access to this project to check this behaviour once again. Hm, saying
more
- now even snapping to beat work. Dunno.

unlikely - i have used ardour on 3 hour 72 track productions using more
than 1500 jack ports, and i haven't seen this.

Another problem which we experienced - ardour was slow on zooming -
mooving the workspace. Probably faster machine would resolve the
problem -
but another DAW here (Linux) was faster....

true. it can be a bit tedious on older machines. but i'm not sure it's
cpu-bound - i guess it depends on the speed of the disk, because that's
where the peak files reside. and audio data always seems to take
precedence (good!), so if your disk is working hard to deliver audio,
peak file scanning will suffer.

Another of problem was editing of sample in details - finally we finished
with exporting them to audacity and so on....

oh yeah, the pencil mode... true, ardour doesn't do that.

About my "useless" word - I was referring to work with Ardour as software
to create music. For me, personally is difficult to focus on creativity
when I don't have access to built in "piano player", "step sequencer"
just
out of the box.
<...>
I read that piano roll will be part of ardour3 - thats sounds very
promising...

yup, a3 might be your cup of tea exactly.

Only, if you want to record MIDI-notes in the first place. Such as: drums being triggering Hydrogen or another sampler. Instruments played by hand and singers will be more or less the same in A3.

best regs

HZN


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